The equally dreaded "Floyd vs Pac - who wins?" poll

REED Actually Gave Sugar Shane a SLIGHT Edge in Round 1 (or EVEN Round @ Worst)...Shane's JAB (to the Head but MOSTLY to the Body) was Fairly Successful...REED Also Seems to Recall a Right Hand or 2 Landing...But this was All PRIOR to the Knockdown, Obviously, Because After that, Shane's ONLY Concern was SURVIVAL, Appealing to Manny Pac's SOFTSIDE & Basically Looking for MERCY...

Pertaining to Floyd-Pac, Floyd's Jab is EXCELLENT...INFINITELY SUPERIOR to Any Jab Sugar Shane has EVER Thrown...Floyd Jabs Equally to the Head AND Body...& his LEAD Right Hand is Probably STILL the Best in Boxing...

REED Favors Floyd by a 70-30,65-35 Type of Margin...REED's ONLY Concern is the Effects of Only Fighting TWICE in 3 1/2 Years...The Floyd that Fought Sugar Shane Wins a UD...8-4, 7-5 Type of Deal...



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Floyd's a bit rusty.

Manny's speed would bother Floyd as well, very greatly and if Floyd's reflexes have dulled it could be ugly. Manny could also steal rounds with flashy but not so meaningful offense simply by flurrying while Floyd is relatively passive.

Think it depends on how willing Floyd is to move his hands and how much he commits to his jab. He doesn't really throw it very often. Fortunately, against a southpaw, his money punch, the straight right hand is twice as effective. I'd wager Floyd doesn't leap in with any left hooks though, like he normally does, and he probably keeps a high left hand throughout.

I'd favour Floyd on points, maybe by 2 rounds or so, but would not be surprised if Manny won a decision or even stopped him.

 

I reslly cannot feel sure who would win and I dont think I'll ever find out at this stage.

 

I went with Floyd close, but i think anything could happen. I can picture Floyd outboxing Manny by a wide margin and could also see Pacquiao unloading some perfect shots and taking Mayweather out early.

 

as REED said, Floyd's inactivity is not a good thing against someone on the level of pacquiao. Seems like Floyd has lost all respect for the sport itself by not keeping himself active, and that will cost him when it matters most.

 

It's looking less & less like he'll ever have to answer for that inactivity, though. I don't think he's going to put himself in the position (a bout with Pacquiao) where it could make him accountable.

 

PBF by UD. Pity Floyd obviously isn't as confident.

 

My head says floyd, my heart says pac. I think floyd would find a way to win, but would be close.

 

i think while everyone is excited and this would be a big fight.. i think it will be a mismatch just like Floyd-gatti or Floyd-Hatton.

Pac is good, Floyd is on another level

 

Pac via close decision. He'd out work and out hustle Mayweather because he's more active and he'd want it more.

Also Pac's hand speed and angles would give Floyd problems, especially the straight leeft hand which works PERFECTLY over Floyd's shoulder roll defense.

 

That's where I am.


If Floyd walks Pacquiao down he wins even easier. The question is...would he dare to fight this strategy against a man with pac's power? Pac has no answer to someone who walks him down behind a jab and good counterpunching.

If Floyd backpaddles and tries to avoid pac at all costs, he wins a very close one.

 

I think Manny Pac has to much balls for PBF. At some point Floyd is gonna have to engage him. He cant win playing defense here. I also think Manny is faster than Floyd. Too many punches, speed, desire. I think he chases Floyd out the ring.

 

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I don't think Floyd would run from Manny. Floyd's bigger than him. Floyd's also very very smart in that ring, although he appears to be a classless ghetto jerk at times. Floyd would know, from the marquez/morales blueprint, that being an agressive counterpuncher behind a jab is the way to beat him. Floyd would fight him the way he fought Judah and Mosley. As such Floyd will be the one chasing, IMO.

 

For me it comes down to whether Floyd can get respect early, if he can't land something clean early, he's in trouble. he simply doesn't have the work rate to keep up if Manny gets going. If he's too defensive he will lose a decision, he will have to fight Manny. A couple right hands a round ain't going to do it if he can't hurt Manny.

 

Very well said! I agree.

 

Again, we must remembe rthat Floyd hits harder than people tend to think, even at 147lbs. Don't be surprised if he hurts Manny worse than Margarito or Cotto managed to. Those guys may hit harde rthan Floyd, but Floyd's sharpness an accuracy could surprise Pacquiao a bit.

 

Manny will be hurt by right hands, and probably more than once.

 

i think sometimes defensive masters like Floyd get lumped into a view that they can't punch..

FLoyd is not a "puncher" but he has good power.. actually i was suprised in the Shane fight.. I thought Shane would be MUCH stronger and bigger than Floyd but as Manny KEPT pointing out in that fight.. Floyd looked like was punching harder.. (aside from the shot that hurt floyd)

Floyd WILL get respect and I personally think FLoyd will HURT Pac.


Pac has gotten SO SO much better..

I used to watch him and think "how can he keep winning with just a killer straight left"

but he throws in combo now and his feet are MUCH better than before, that said IMO Floyd is the best out there right now, his skill is ridiculous. He is fast!!

Pac is fast but not in the way Floyd is, Floyd is fast and very very good timing, he lands when he wants, where he wants and doesn't get hit

This will be such a great fight if it happens and FLoyd will really put a BEATING on Pac

 

PBF dosent even believe he can beat Pac otherwise he would have taken the fight a long time ago. And if the fight does happen, it would be very boring. PBF would be playing 99% defense the entire fight.

 

Correction: Pac doesn't believe he can beat PBF without steroids, and Roach knows that Pac can't beat him with OR without steroids.

 

Thats classic PBF fans argument. The bottom line is this, Manny Pac shouldn't have to agree to any testing above the normal requirement.

 

And Floyd didn't have to agree to Manny's glove size requirements, his weight stipulations, etc etc. But he did, because he isn't a purebred bitch. like Manny.

And are we really going to start talking about contract stipulations in the context of Manny "I'll fight Shane Mosley at 142 lbs" Pacquiao?

If Manny had just told Floyd to fuck off from the get-go, instead of stuttering about getting weakened by losing an amount of blood doctors regularly take from newborn infants, a fear of needles in spite of being covered with tats, trying to fit in the random testing requirement with his cycle schedule, etc etc, that would've been a lot more respectable and believable.

Don't get me wrong, he'd still be dirtier than Don King in a mudpit, but at least he wouldn't have looked like such a total fucking fraud.

 

Listen yeah, the only way this fight will happen is if they come face to face in the same building somewhere, at a big event or something. Much like Hopkins-Calzaghe, I guarantee you if they hadn't had that face off at Mayweather-Hatton that fight would NEVER have happened. Something similar needs to go down with these two, with the eyes of the world on them. Out of interest, when was the last time Floyd and Manny WERE in the same place at the same time?? Last moment I can remember is Pacquiao-Morales II, when ironically, Floyd was cheering on Manny ::

 

Fighters can't pick glove size, they can only pick brands and colors. What weight did Manny fight Shane at? 147. And let's not pretend Mayweather doesn't do the same shit, asking JMM to come in at 143 then not even making any attempt to make the agreed upon weight. He just paid the fine and gained yet another advantage over an already smaller fighter. Take your bullshit somewhere else fan boy.

Meanwhile the word is Mayweather is going to fight Ortiz in TEXAS. He better fucking demand testing, cause Texas does none of thier own, and Ortiz better be held to the same standard.

 

As usual, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. Floyd agreed to 8 oz gloves with Manny, even though the standard is 10 oz at welter.

Floyd didn't ask JMM to come in at 143. JMM asked for the catchweight of 145, the fight was a welterweight fight and Floyd met the contract stipulation by paying 600k instead of bothering to make 145. Again, you're a fucking retard who should avoid opening his mouth.

Ortiz has no cloud of suspicion over him, though I'm sure he'd agree to the tests if it was asked of him. You'd have to be either a moron or dirty (see: Manny Pacquiao) to walk away from the biggest payday of your career over a blood test.