Tomasz Adamek vs Michael Grant.

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  1. Irish

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    ESPN is saying this fight has been made.

    Opinions?:dunno:
     
  2. BOSS

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    I guess it makes sense to go after the 6'7 Grant in preparation for the Klitschkos
     
  3. Irish

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    Yeah but the comparison probably ends there.

    I didn't even know Grant was active.
     
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    He is David Tua type active. Fights when he needs the cash I guess
     
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    And also if Adamek can crack Gran't chin he can crack Wlad's. We should get an idea if he has any pop on his punches
     
  6. Irish

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    Grants chin post Lewis and Guinn cannot be much of a test. At least Wlad has not taken any serious beatings inside the last 6 years.
     
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    Hell I think Grant might just win this. Might be just too big for Adamek. And from the looks of things on boxrec he stil comes in very good shape and is only 37. On top of all that he is riding on a SEVEN YEAR undefeated streak!
     
  8. Irish

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    Yes.
     
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    Teddy the Supertrainer Atlas made Grant forget everything he had ever learned about boxing. He won't be able to compete at world level anymore, not even against a smaller guy. An acceptable stay-busy fight but an easy win for Adamek
     
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    Jesus, Guinn/Grant was seven years ago? Crazy.
     
  11. Irish

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    I doubt Michael has gotten any better in the meantime.
     
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    Yeah, I can't imagine he's that much better.

    Adamek should, and I would argue has to stop Grant fairly early.
     
  13. Irish

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    I wonder what Grant looks like, now that he, eh, uh, has not been training so hard recently......
     
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    Me either.

    Just checked boxrec and he fought 2010-05-07 scoring a first round knockout. He weighed 257 and his opponent 277.
     
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    Grant should stay retired.
     
  16. Irish

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    Grant is on a hot streak, baby!! Roll dem dice!!
     
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    he fought this month...
     
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    Grant just needs to learn to fight like the tawller guy.
     
  19. Irish

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    I dont know what sort of shape Grant is in, my guess is that he is in decent shape, but the Pole must know something we don't.

    As sucky as Grant was vs elite fighters, he always did OK versus the scrubbier version- Savarese, Izon, Gonzalez, Corey Sanders etc
    Now, Adamek is not "Scrubby" but he is smaller.

    I wonder how much Grant might have left at this stage of his career.
     
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    Really????
     
  21. Mitchell Kane

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    All his noteworthy wins came pre-Lewis, pre-McCline, and pre-Atlas.

    The most noteworthy thing Grant's done in the ring since then is be the punching bag that helped HBO launch the Dominic Guinn Express.

    (It was the ther Sanders, T-Rex...and I'd replace Gonzalez with Golota.)
     
  22. Irish

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    Nah..against Golota, he was badly exposed and shown up to the fraud he was when it came upper echelon fighters. After Golota, the only questions which had been answered were {a} Did Grant have heart, and {b} Was Golota a total fucktard. Both questions were answered in the affirmative.

    But a whole heap of new ones had been raised about Grants position in the division, which Lewis answered in double quick time.
     
  23. Mitchell Kane

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    Hard to hold a loss to Lennox Lewis against anyone, and I wouldn't call him a fraud, I mean there's a reason some of the other contenders at the time weren't exactly jumping at the chance to fight him.

    Grant wasn't the second coming, but he has unnecessarily become a punchline because of how his career was handled.
     
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    That's the thing.
    He was heralded as the second coming, so in that sense (although it wasn't his fault), he was a fraud.
    He was exposed (and Golota "re-exposed"), in their fight, as an average fighter. with lots of heart & size, but not much skill.

    I think after the Golota fight, not many who knew boxing gave him much hope against Lewis.

    But his career was handled badly.
    He was an ex-footballer or something wasn't he?, with little if any ammy B/Ground.
    I remember he was religious & used to say "god bless" to his opponents as they touched gloves.
     
  25. Irish

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    He had 2 amateur fights. Grant is quoted as having said that watching Holyfield vs Bowe III made him think he could make it in boxing.

    Grant was a college flunkie who by his own admission spent too much time on athletics and not enough time on academics.

    He is a classic example of the athletic sort who would supposedly succeed at boxing if they were not involved in "Other Sports".

    Grant should not be dismayed though. Guys like Charlie Powell {former SF 49'rs} was a 6'4" 230lb footballer who was MASSIVE by the standards of the day in the late 50's and 60's.

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    He got bashed not just by the likes of Patterson and a-then Cassius Clay, but by fringe European contenders like Billy Walker.

    Grant was similar to Powell in that he had a physique which dwarfed many of his contemporaries. Unfortunately for him, there is more to boxing than size.
     
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    Nah, exposed is when a guy like Briggs, who did have a good amateur background, gets a boatload of hype and then gasses in the first round of first HBO appearance and goes quietly to the canvas a couple rounds.

    Grant had been stepping up pretty nicely from the USA/ESPN circuit to HBO and was getting some decent opponents on the network (Izon, Sullivan, Abdin, Savarese), but Lewis and Golota were complete opposites of him...having Olympic amateur backgrounds and title fight experience.
     
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    Please. There's few heavyweights close to his size that were as well conditioned and able to put punches together the way he could.

    He didn't have the kind of jab, or overall technique, that some heavyweights get from an extensive amateur background, but he did have some qualities that would've made him a handful for a lot of heavyweights at the time.

    Hasim Rahman didn't have much of an amateur career and he knocked out arguably the best heavyweight champion of the past 20 years.
     
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    Mike Grant failed at the highest level and he failed in part because he came up against a HoF heavyweight but also because he was swallowed whole by the occasion. He was clearly out of his depth psychologically and fought like a rank amateur on the night, throwing wild haymakers and roundhouses. You are either have the ability to perform on the big night or you don't. Grant didn't.

    Grant was also a "White Hope" of sorts. So many Yanks had placed so much hopes on him. Wally Matthews savagely attacked Lewis in his articles the following day calling Lewis " an amateur, albeit a very powerful one", and in doing so drew a stern rebuke from Steve Farhood who knew what Matthews was saying was based as much on disappointment as it was fact.
     

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