Attendance: 12,816 Total Gate: $2,570,000 Quinton Jackson: $250,000 (no win bonus) Matt Hamill: $32,000 Frank Mir: $250,000 ($125,000 to show, $125,000 to win) Roy Nelson: $15,000 Travis Browne: $16,000 ($8,000 to show, $8,000 to win) Stefan Struve: $21,000 Rick Story: $34,000 ($17,000 to show, $17,000 to win) Thiago Alves: $ 33,000 Brian Stann: $46,000 ($23,000 to show, $23,000 to win) Jorge Santiago: $36,000 Demetrious Johnson: $12,000 ($6,000 to show, $6,000 to win) Miguel Torres: $30,000 Tim Boetsch: $36,000 ($18,000 to show, $18,000 to win) Kendall Grove: $28,000 Gleison Tibau: $50,000 ($25,000 to show, $25,000 to win) Rafaello Oliveira: $10,000 Michael McDonald: $12,000 ($6,000 to show, $6,000 to win) Chris Cariaso: $4,000 Renan Barao: $10,000 ($5,000 to show, $5,000 to win) Cole Escovedo: $6,000 Bonuses: $70,000 Fight of the Night: Stann vs Santiago Submission of the Night: Gleison Tibau KO of the Night: Travis Browne Gleison Tibau walks away with $150,000! Not bad at all! :kidcool:
Like it or Not, Hamill LITERALLY Fought in the UFC 130 Main Event, "Late Replacement" or Not...A PPV Main Eventer Getting 32grand is LAUGHABLE, Dude...U DID See the Part where the Live Gate was 2.5 MILLION, Right????...That DOESN'T Include the PPV Proceeds Either... REED
Yup. That pay is absolutely f*cking sh*t! $32K in a UFC main event. LOL I remember Jardine got 16K from beating Chuck Liddell who got like 450K in a past UFC main event on ppv.
On REED's Behalf, this ISN'T about "Boxing vs. MMA", Either...It's about THE PRODUCT, a.k.a., THE FIGHTERS Being FAIRLY Compensated...Rampage is 1 of the MORE Marketable MMAist's, yet a Replacement PPV Opponent Can't Get More than $32,000.... Dana White Likely Made MORE than Any Fighter EXCEPT for Rampage and Mir, for this Particular PPV... REED
Yeah but the pay is not based upon performance. He could have fought like a coked up Arturo Gatti and still would have came home with the same money. Yeah i realize there are win bonuses and i think they're a great thing, but being in a main event should garner you more than 30k. After taxes and what ever other fees he won't be able to buy himself even a decent new car.
So? The dude has a contract. Rampage wasn't even supposed to fight the dude, let alone in a main event. What do you expect them to do, rip up his contract and overpay him grossly because a bunch of dudes got hurt or suspended? :wack: He probably would've gotten a decent discretionary bonus too if he wouldn't have stunk out the fight. Maybe he did anyway, who knows...
So, Huh???.... NOBODY Attends OR Purchases a UFC PPV to INTENTIONALLY FATTEN the Pockerts of Dana White, Zuffa, or Whomever...They Attend PPV's to WATCH THE FIGHTS....& U Can't Have Fights w/Out FIGHTERS.... Just like NBA'ers, NFL'ers, MLB'ers, NHL'ers & Other Sports Figures DESERVE the Bulk of the Overall Revenue, So Do the Fighters....Hell, even Don King Would've Paid Matt Hamill MORE than $32,000 in this Instance.... REED
UFC fighters are merely just dogs in a cage. Dana tells them to obey or be sent to the pound. That's all it is. That's how their "business" is run.
Fixed. Coming from a guy who complained about making a measly wage all the while designing a t-shirt that made his company thousands, I thought you off all people would understand this...::
They get nowhere near the bulk of the revenue. The players get a very small percentage of the total revenue, which is why they are bitching(hilariously enough....I suppose millions do not suffice). If Gerry Buss woke up and was making what Kobe was making he'd hang himself by the afternoon.
I didn't risk my life and have my blood splattered all over the place while designing t-shirts either. LOL Not sure you wanna compare fighting to an office-job. I wasn't making the company thousands and thousands my whole time there. Now I make thousands working for myself while the company itself had to downsize because it's in financial peril. Fact is, Hamill's money went into somebody else's pocket. The one half of the main event made sh*t money and that's the fact here.
Dana White most certainly pulled in more than all of the fighters combined as he should. Roy Nelson making only 15k in comparison to Frank Mir making 250k is just as laughable as Hamill getting 32k. After taxes and training expenses what is the bring home money on a 15k purse? Maybe 8-10k tops? Most of these guys must still be working 9-5 jobs?
Absolutely nothing to do with it. Cagefighting is hardly dangerous, anyway. And if danger equated to salary, then crabfishers and lumberjacks should be freakin billionaires. He made "sh*t money" because he commands "sh*t money". If anyone cared enough to see Matt Hammill, or he was at least a good MMA fighter, he'd make a lot more.
Agreed on both. Although I don't consider Hamill's salary laughable. But I am surprised by Nelson's salary since he's actually a fairly reasonable draw and a TUF winner which I thought commanded a 100k contract or so as they advertised it. And nah, training expenses should only be a few thousand dollars and in their tax bracket, the govt is taking half as most people exaggerate. Plus he gets sponsorship money which should be 15-20k for a fighter like him.
damn, roy nelson got 15k? he's fought like once this year hasnt he? how can these guys make a living?
I always get a kick out of these discussions. People act like Roy Nelson or Matt Hamill didn't know what they were going to get paid before the fights. Hilarious. These guys sign contracts that spell out exactly what their salaries will be. It's not a mystery. Yet still they CHOOSE to fight. In fact, a guy like Roy Nelson went through the TUF show just to get a UFC contract. Matt Hamill made $130K for 2 fights in 2010 and Roy Nelson pulled down $75K for 2 fights in 2010. Not too shabby for 2 guys not even in the top 10 in their own divisions. But regardless if you thinks it's shabby or not, both guys CHOSE to fight for exactly what they get paid. And both guys would beg NOT to be released from the UFC.
I just find it funny that people think contracts should be ripped up for completely sentimental reasons such as being in a main event. It is so absurd I can barely wrap my head around it. The UFC BRAND, has a bottom ceiling that it is clearly going to hit with this card. That said, it's the BRAND that draws the viewers. Matt Hamill literally commands almost zero salary. The only salary he commands is the salary that he should be paid in respect to how much other organizations will pay him to be filler on their rosters. Not how many tickets he would have in seats. The UFC could've headlined the card as Rampage vs One Lucky Fan!!, and done the same numbers they would've with Hammill. Rampage commands the salary because he's carrying the PPV outside of the generic brand power. Hammill is just the guy he's fighting. Also, part of the reason boxing is supposedly dying is probably bad business like some of you are suggesting. Networks giving huge purses to nobodies to fill up a card. It's asinine. Kevin Johnson getting a mil to fight Vitali is an example of everything that's wrong with the sport. I could've went out and fought Vitali and drawn as much revenue and attention as Kevin Johnson did. He was lucky if he even had a name, he was just a body for Vitali to hopefully knock out.
One of the problems is that people who slam the UFC's pay structure can't help comparing it to boxing. It's not boxing. There is no negotiation. If Roy Nelson has a contract that says he'll get $30K for his first fight; $15K for his next 3 and then another $30K for the last fight on his contract, guess what? That's exactly what he'll get as a base salary whether he's fighting Struve, Schaub or freaking Velasquez. Something tells me Roy Nelson is ecstatic to have a guaranteed $105,000 contract. And he pulled 2 KO of the Night Bonuses so that's an extra $55,000. So he'll end up making at least $160,000 over a 2 year period. Again, not too shabby for a fat fuck that's 2-2 in the UFC.
a 1800 worker would have begged not to be release by his factory also, doesn't mean his condition and pay were fair. Thing is, it's funny seeing you and TLC argue that their pay is fair because they signed a contract allowing it. No it's not, Zuffa are practically a monopoly, they don't have to sign fighters to what they are worth but by merely offering them the minimum they will accept. It's not fair and these kind of practice will keep MMA from becoming a main sport and also deprived us from seeing top talent in MMA
Bellator offers a 100k prize tourney for every division. Obviously if fighters are unhappy with their salaries, that's a good option. As far as that type of practice not being fair and stopping MMA to becoming a main sport, no. It's actually plenty fair to get paid what your value is. It also has little hindrance to the sport of MMA. The main hindrance being, in the end of the day, it's still just fighting, it'll never be baseball, basketball or football, and quite frankly I think most MMA fans are cool with that.
