UFC 141 Lesnar vs Overeem

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  1. Rainmaker

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    Who wins and why?
     
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    I think Overeem, Lesnar is the worst MMA fighter I have ever seen in taking a punch. I just don't see Brock not getting hit at least once, when he turtles, its all over.
     
  3. *Z*

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    Overeem is pulling some shady stuff. He's contacted to take a random drug test by the NSAC so he jumps on a plane and goes back to Holland on the day he is supposed to take a test. Meanwhile, Brock takes and passes his random test. Overeem goes to his PERSONAL doctor and submits a blood test, in which they didn't actually test for anything. Then tries to use that to pass his test. NSAC doesn't like it, calls a hearing and gives Overeem a conditional license if he passes a test within 72 hours.

    Frank Mir is ready to step in should he need to do so.
     
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  5. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That guy is the ONLY guy in MMA or Boxing that I am SURE is on 'roids. There is no fucking way he is not.
     
  6. Trplsec

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    I would literally stop in my tracks if this fight takes place.

    If by some miracle Overeem ends up fighting, it's just a matter of which happens first: A) A Lesnar take down B) A Overeem punch landing

    Overeem will get mauled on the ground and won't get back up. But, as Jarhead said, if he touches Brock once, Lesnar will get knocked out as he retreats to the cage and gets pummeled.

    All that said, I like Lesnar via GNP over Mir in their rubber match.. LOL.
     
  7. Trplsec

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    Don't you love his reasoning for leaving Vegas and going back to Holland?

    They should mandate a Barnett-Overeem match in which both guys wear razor blades on their gloves.
     
  8. Trplsec

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    How do you think this works out:

     
  9. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I can totally understand his reason about his mom, but the thing is, She's in no worse health than she was before. It's not as if she suddenly fell ill. She has cancer, and that sucks for sure, I feel bad for them, but he knew her condition and it hasn't changed. It's all just a bit too shady.
     
  10. *Z*

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    If the fight does come off, it's really a hard one to pick. I slightly favor Lesnar, I just think he will be able to get Overeem down right away and keep him there. If he charged Overeem like he did Cain, who he did manage to get down even if it was only briefly, I don't think Overeem would pop up like Cain did. Cain's wrestling is worlds better than Overeem's.
     
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    Overeem ground game is being seriously underrated here, Lesnar won't just maul him if it gets to the ground. Personnaly, I expecst him to pretty much crush Lesnar, but Overeem is Overeem and you can't you forget and he used to alway's managed to find way to lose.
     
  12. Azazel

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    Overeem is no more on roids than Lesnar is, wich is to say, they both are on some big time stuff.
     
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    Overeem crushes that piece of shit. Overeem ain't no prairie dog.
     
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    Yet overeem felt the need to run from his test and brock passed his
     
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    Overeem took a blood test instead of the required urinalysis on Nov. 23. Kizer said that the results of the blood test came back clean.

    From sherdog


    Who made those test ? The NSAC or some random doctors. If it's the former, I don't get the talk about overeem avoiding test, since blood test are way more strict than urine test.

    The reem will crush lesnar and poor Z will cry cause his favorite hick gets crushed once again
     
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    yeah and Lesnar , who weighed a million pounds in his wwf days is not.

    get real
     
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    Alistair Overeem (35-11 MMA, 0-0 UFC) today flew to the U.K. to fulfill the first requirement of his conditional license to fight Brock Lesnar (5-2 MMA, 4-2 UFC).


    Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer told MMAjunkie.com that the results of that test are expected next Tuesday, Dec. 20, or 10 days before he meets Lesnar in the main event of UFC 141, which takes place Dec. 30 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

    Kizer said he expects Overeem to return to Las Vegas around the time the first test results become available, whereupon the fighter will be submit a urine sample at a local drug testing facility.
     
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    Maybe he was in WWE.

    However i doubt he is in the UFC. Lesnar has always been big tho. Even as a child. Overeem use to be a little guy not too long ago.
     
  19. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    doesn't matter

    since once you took roids once, it change the structure of your body for life, because of the muscle memory.

    and i think you,re naive if you think that the guy is not on something presently. Supposedly he was all scrawny when he got out of the hospital, and now he's back to being a mountain of muscle
     
  20. Azazel

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    Overeem made a blood test only 2 day's after Lesnar made his urine test ( wich was what the commission wanted ). To my knowledge, it's easier to cheat an urine test than a blodd test. Plus, he had bought his plane ticket before the comission asked him to do a test
     
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    Who said he was scrawny? Where are the pics?
     
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    Overeem just took the blood test today
     
  23. Trplsec

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    Dude, Overeem left Vegas right before he was required to give urine. The blood test he took in Holland was given by his OWN personal physician. So no, it DID NOT meet the requirements of the commission.

    Only an absolute moron wouldn't see what's up with that.

    And don't counter with the silly "Yeah but Lesnar WAS on roids too".

    The bottom line is that one guy took his test and past while the other guy fled. Period.
     
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    Are you really this dumb? Overeem fled Vegas and then took a blood test with his own physician which DID NOT satisfy the requirements of the commission.

    Damn, you Overeem fans are the absolute dumbest lot in the bunch.

    And before you call me a Lesnar fan, I am not. If he did what Overeem did, I'd be on his ass calling him a cheater as well. But Brock has fought everyone of his UFC fights in venues that required testing and NEVER failed. And now? His first fight in Vegas since bulking up from 205 and the dude pulls this shit. Overeem has avoided places that require testing like the plague.

    Dumb... Just dumb fans.
     
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    WTF, surely the UFC didn't accept that, a blood test by his own physician :lol:
     
  26. *Z*

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    Funny, since Lesnar passed his RANDOM drug test, and Overeem flew out of the country and didn't contact anyone for 5 days. :lol:
     
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    He passed his random test. You're boy fled the country. :lol:
     
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    Look up a college or even a highschool picture of Lesnar. The guy is just a giant human being. He has always been huge.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I seriously don't care who wins the fight, Lesnar is far from my favorite. :lol:
     
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    Why was Overeems last fight in Texas? Overeem and Barnett both on a Texas card, Hmmm.
     

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