UFC files license application for UFC 146's Alistair Overeem, NSAC reviews April 24

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  1. Anthony

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    UFC files license application for UFC 146's Alistair Overeem, NSAC reviews April 24

    by Steven Marrocco on Apr 09, 2012 at 1:50 pm ET
    [​IMG]The UFC has not given up on Alistair Overeem.

    On Friday afternoon, UFC officials filed a license application on the heavyweight contender's behalf for a bout with Junior Dos Santos at UFC 146, Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

    Overeem has not contacted the commission since he failed a pre-fight drug test for the pay-per-view event, which takes place May 26 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

    Additionally, Overeem has not requested the "B" sample of the test that flagged him for elevated levels of testosterone. He is expected to be present at an NSAC meeting in Las Vegas on April 24, when the NSAC will review his application. theflyingkneemma.com initially reported the license application.

    Because Overeem is not currently licensed, he does not face an immediate suspension and/or fine. However, the NSAC could deny his license or sanction him in other ways.

    "When you apply for a license, anything and everything can be brought up," Kizer said.

    Prior to the application, NSAC chairman Raymond "Skip" Avansino Jr. asked Overeem to appear before the commission at the meeting, likely to answer for the failed drug test that served as part of a conditional license granted to fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 141.

    After missing a pre-fight drug test for that December event, Overeem's appearance was contingent on undergoing additional drug testing. During an NSAC hearing in December, he said he had missed the test while flying to Holland to care for his ailing mother. Concerns over the missed drug test and efforts to get him tested in his native country led the commission to issue a conditional license in which he was required to submit to two pre-fight tests, a fight-night test, and two random tests within six months of the fight. The license expired on Dec. 31.

    The UFC 146 pre-fight test, which was conducted after a UFC 146 press conference on March 27, served as one of Overeem's two random tests. This past week, his "A" sample was flagged for a testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) ratio of 14:1, well over the NSAC's 6:1 limit. The former Strikeforce champion was among six top-billed fighters who were tested for the all-heavyweight PPV card. All other fighters tested clean for performance-enhancing drugs and drugs of abuse.

    Overeem could ask that his "B" sample – a second portion of urine taken from the UFC 146 test – be tested by the lab that found the result or by a separate accredited facility. He has yet to do so.

    Overeem had never tested positive for banned substances before this past week's result. He has yet to comment on his failed test.

    Over the weekend, UFC president Dana White said a co-main event fight between former champ Frank Mir and Cain Velasquez will go on as planned, ending, for now, speculation that Mir would be installed as Overeem's replacement to fight current champ Dos Santos.
     
  2. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The UFC is going to look real fucking bad if he's allowed to fight for the title. Watch him claim TRT and get a license. What a joke.
     
  3. Jesus of montreal

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    I really hope it happens
     
  4. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Fuck the UFC if it does! If Overeem get by on a loophole, the UFC should do the right thing and pull him from the card.
     
  5. Anthony

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    I dont know, it's slippery. He wasnt licensed, so he could do whatever he wanted IMO. Once licensed, then he has to follow the rules. I dont know, i guess im torn. I would love to see the fight.
     
  6. Hanz

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    I want to see this fight! F*ck the roids. Make the fight happen! :kidcool:
    They all are taking sh*t anyway. And everybody knew Overeem was roiding his ass off for years.
     
  7. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He still had to meet the conditions of his license for the Lesnar fight though. Why on earth would they give him a license when he didn't pass the first of 2 random tests he was ordered to take?
     
  8. Trplsec

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    The UFC loses almost every ounce of remaining legitimacy if they let Overeem fight.

    The average fan will simply see the UFC allowing a fighter to compete despite using banned substances during training.

    I am as disappointed as anyone that this fight isn't happening. But the UFC has to do the right thing. They should cut Overeem completely.
     
  9. Trplsec

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    The fact that this is even a gray area for you has me concerned.

    Licensed or not, the dude is using steroids. He is now a known cheat.
     
  10. Anthony

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    Because, and im just assuming, i have no idea. I think that him failing the test would result in a Lesnar NC. This new licence is for a whole other issue. What lesnar took wasnt illegal, it's only illegal if he is licenced to the fight. At least that is my understanding. But i dont know all the facts yet.
     
  11. Trplsec

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    The bottom line is that he didn't meet the conditions for the license he had FOR the Lesnar fight.

    This is really no different than had he failed one of the other "conditional" test associated with the license he got for the Lesnar. It is exactly the same as if he had failed the 'fight night' test with Lesnar.
     
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    They arent steriods. TRT is legal to use. If OVereem was off for a year and wanted to use TRT, it would be legal, as long as he wasnt fighting.
     
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    Hey man you could be right. Im thinking about it all right now. I just dont know yet. Im not as convinced as you on it.
     
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    OK.... Testosterone IS a steroid. Read that again and try to understand it. TESTOSTERONE IS A STEROID.

    And again, this test was part of his conditional license so YES he was required to NOT use steroids (Even TRT over acceptable levels) for 6 months after the Lesnar fight.

    Why is this so hard to comprehend.
     
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    Then disregard my last post pal!!!!

    :lol:
     
  16. Hanz

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    What about the Lesnar fight? If he was roiding, shouldn't they make it a NC?
     
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    No comment.

    :lol:
     
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    Technically he would have been an unlicensed fighter so the fight should be a NC..

    To me, I have always said anyone busted for steroids should have every fight on their record delcared a NC. Once a cheat always a cheat.
     
  19. Hanz

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    Well every other MMA fighter was accusing Overeem of heavy steroid use including Fedor. Look at the transformation in his physique over the short time. The guy is a fraud and should be banned for life from MMA if they really want to take the steroid stuff seriously.
    But then again, it would be bad for business wouldn't it.:scared2:
     
  20. *Z*

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    Overeem is going to claim he's on TRT. If everyone in MMA is just going to cheat, I don't even want to watch it anymore. What a joke. MMA will NEVER be considered a real sport if this is going to be allowed.
     
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    Why do you single out MMA when the CSAC and the NSAC handle boxing as well? Same rules
     
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    MMA isn't in a position in its early days to think it can do whatever it wants. It's still trying to build credibility and raise awareness to the mass public regarding its existence. So far, people still look at it as a boring bar brawling type sport or dudes buttf*cking eachother on the ground. It doesn't have some rich storied history and they can't have stuff like roiders going rampant and pulling the integrity of the sport into the sh*tter.
     
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    Name one pro boxer who uses TRT. It's not a steroid issue that pisses me off, it's guys finding a way around it and blatantly cheating.
     
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    I cant. But that doesnt mean there isnt any. Again these rules by the commission affect boxing and MMA
     
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    In all honesty, it seems to be a much bigger problem in MMA.
     
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    It's tough to consider something a real sport when it isn't a real sport.
     
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    Hey steve, that stint you did where you were reporting via satelite onto an MMA news show, talking about the rapid climb of MMA eclipsing Boxing etc. Have your views changed in the past year considering how many MMA promotions are dying out and how little money there is in the sport, giving evidence that maybe MMA really isn't cut out to be as big as what many thought was the case a few years back?
    To me, it seems like the sport hasn't really caught on as it was expected to. Most fighters other than top flight UFC stars are making f*ck all and viewership overall is piss poor.
     
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    And that is where the TRT debate falls flat. No one will ever convince me that a guy like Overeem has clinically low testosterone. Making that claim, with his transformation from a scrawny 205'er to a 260lbs heavyweight, would make an absolute mockery of the TRT argument.

    I honestly think the UFC is at a very important stage in their history and so is MMA in general. If the UFC and/or the NSAC don't put their foot down about TRT, the sport will backslide quickly in my opinion.
     
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    You can't because not a single pro boxer has asked for an exemption for TRT. As it stands now, this is exclusive to MMA. Boxing is already established, it's considered a real sport. Let me know when a boxer training for a title fight fails a drug test and is still given his title fight and I'll bitch about that too.
     
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    I'm as big an MMA fan as anyone, and this really pisses me off. I don't want to see cheaters rewarded. I already cannot stand the way Chael Sonnen is looked at as some fucking hero for almost beating Silva with testosterone levels that were off the fucking charts. His were higher than Overeem and he actually fought that way, what he did is way worse, and yet he is rewarded with an easy road back to a title shot. MMA is going down the shitter.
     

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