UFC holding up Anderson Silva's $6 million payday

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/2/8/80...million-payday-from-anderson-silva-until-nsac


How the mighty have fallen.

The fallout from former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) middleweight kingpin Anderson Silva's positive pre-fight UFC 183 test for steroids has reportedly gotten a lot worse for "The Spider," as Brazilian outlet Veja.abril.com is reporting that UFC is withholding nearly $6 million in pay from the former champion.

Silva made a reported $800,000 ($600,000 to show, $200,000 to win) in salary for his unanimous decision victory over Nick Diaz in the main event of UFC 183 -- which will now more than likely be overturned to a "no contest" once the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) votes on the subject.

The remaining sum is reportedly Silva's earnings from pay-per-view (PPV) points, and considering how well UFC 183 did business-wise, "The Spider" was expecting a hefty chunk of change.

UFC brass will apparently withhold the funds from "The Spider" until the NSAC makes its final ruling, and with a disciplinary hearing not planned until March or April, it may be quite some time before Silva sees that money.

Even worse, with the NSAC likely to overturn the victory for Silva, the Brazilian may forfeit his win bonus -- and could potentially face a hefty fine as well.

Silva himself has denied ever taking steroids (see test results here), and UFC has indicated they will back the former champion as due process plays out.


TFK

 

$6 million?

Is this what Mike is always referring to as "Slave wages"?

Travesty.

 

I don't refer to them as slave wages. I refer to UFC fighters being grossly underpaid. It's not a difficult to understand distinction if you aren't being simplistic.

"Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer reports that UFC 183, headlined by Anderson Silva and Nick Diaz, did a huge pay-per-view number, landing between 600,000 and 700,000 buys. This is way above industry expectations."

If you think $6 million is adequate pay for a guy bringing in those kinds of numbers, that's your problem.

 

Unless UFC Plans on REFUNDING their ppv Take, it Seems SHITTY of them to "Withhold" 6 mil from the Guy MOST Responsible for the Success of It...



REED

 

6 Mil is Certainly NATHAN to Sneeze @, but in Comparison to the # of Miilions the PPV Generated, 6 Mil is a SMALL Portion of That...



REED

 

silva is one of the top 3 draws in the sport and possibly the greatest mixed martial artist ever. was his contract up after his two losses?

 

There are times when being simplistic is a good way to go. This is a perfect example. My simplistic view allows me to tell you EAXCTLY how much Silva should be paid. However, from your perspective, you claim UFC fighters are "grossly underpaid" but when pressed, you can't tell me what they SHOULD be paid.

 

That's tough to say without knowing how many fighters on the card got PPV points. And if there are others, how much was involved.

If the PPV did 600K buys and the show did $1 mil live gate, what is $6 million, about 20% ?

 

In looking through it, I can't think of anyone else that I would bet got points. Maybe Meisha?

So if the PPV providers do get half, that means Silva pulled down about 38% of the UFC's revenue net the PPV provider expense.

Diaz made $500k in reported payout. If you figure he got another $300K in PPV % and the other fighters on the card (with bonuses) ate up another $300K, Silva grabbed almost half of what the UFC earned after fighter payroll and the PPV provider split.

You factor in all the other cost the UFC has with an event like this and it is safe to say Silva banked better than 50% of the UFC net earnings from UFC 183.

That doesn't sound too bad.

 

That's ASSuming Every Single Viewer Watched the SD Version of the Pay-Per-View, Which is Laughable in REED's Opinion...The HD Version was $59.99, Which REED is Willing to Bet the MAJORITY of Watchers Paid For...For Verizon Customers, Pricing was $64.95 HD/ $54.95 SD...

So, Uuuuuh, Yeah, 6 Mil is a SMALL Portion of the Overall Pay Per View Take, Factoring In the ACTUAL Price...




REED:kidcool:

 

1. You DO Realize Pay-Per-View ISN'T UFC's Only Revenue Stream, Right???...& Even if All Fighter Purses were Paid JUST from PPV (Which they AREN'T), UFC 183 TOTAL Fighter Payouts Amounted to 2.18 Million, INCLUDING Silva and Diaz, Who Ate Up MORE than Half of That...Their Purses Added Up to 1.3 Mil, While the Other 11 Bouts Paid Out LESS than a Million!!!

2. REED Knows for a FACT the Site Fee has NATHAN To Do w/PPV, in Boxing...REED Would Be Shocked if MMA's Any Different...In Boxing, the Site Fee is Typically THE 1st Expense Paid, Because Venues AREN'T Gonna Book a Date for You Based on a Promise of PPV Sales, Months Down the Line...But @ the HIGHEST Levels of Combative Sports, Venues Actually PAY THE PROMOTERS for their Product, from Time to Time...

When Manny Pacquiao Fights @ that Fancy Hotel in China, the Hotel PAYS Bob Arum...There IS NO "Site Fee" Coming Out of the Promoters Pocket OR the PPV Cut...Given UFC's Popularity, Frequency of Shows & Presence in Vegas, REED Doubts they're Paying a Site Fee to the MGM Grand, @ This Point...& Even if they Are, it's EXCLUSIVE From the PPV Money...The Venue Itself is IRRELEVANT to a PPV, so WHY Would a Site Fee or Any Other Monies Be Allocated from the PPV Cut???...

3. On Air Talent is the HIGHEST Production Cost, but Let's Not Pretend Goldberg & Rogan are Breaking the Bank...Rogan's Got Money, but that's from his Non-UFC Exploits (Stand Up Comedy, Fear Factor, etc.)...Not Only that, but Production People are More than Likely Making a YEARLY Salary, as Opposed to an Event by Event Purse...

4. So UFC DOESN'T Have a Marketing Budget???...

Bottom Line, a PPV is a Separate Entity Unto Itself...It's a Pie on a Different Shelf that Everybody DOESN'T Get a Slice of...& w/the MANY Revenue Streams UFC has @ its Disposal, there's NOfuckingWAY they're Paying what You've Stated, PER PPV...





REED:kidcool:

 

Instead of REEDing REED's Words, you're Deflecting, Which is WEAK as Hell, but Typical for You...

Of Course the Venue is Taking a % of an Event Held Within their Confines...% of Attendance, Concessions, Parking, etc., Which are All INDIVIDUAL REVENUE STREAMS, Exclusive of PPV...The Venue DOESN'T Play a Part in the Broadcasting of a PPV so WHY Would they Be Privy to a Cut of It???...

You & REED were Having a PPV Debate, but You, in your Infinite Business Wisdom, Made NOfuckingMENTION of the VARIOUS Streams of Revenue @ UFC's Disposal...So Instead of Being an ASSHOLE, Get your OWN Business Sense Up, Playboy...




REED:wack:

 

Is this the first time they withhold a PPV purse?

 

agREED

 

Yeah, the UFC is denying it, and it's been said that the commission controls the payouts, not the UFC. So if the money is being held up, it's the commission that is doing it.


TFK

 

The UFC underpays its fighters, always has, and keeps its finances secret in order to keep everyone guessing.

Lets hope the antitrust lawsuit brings some real facts out in the open.

 

None of that Means 6mil SHOULD Be "More than Enough" for Anderson Silva, Considering his Status in UFC and Martial Arts as a Whole...

You're No More Privy to How UFC Divy's Out Money than REED is. Ditto for Silva's Expenses...

REED is All for Elite/Legendary Fighters Making as MUCH as they Can, While they're Still Relevant...You and Others Seem to Want to CAP a Fighter's Earning Potential, While Burying your Heads in the Sand when the Secrecy of UFC's Bookkeeping is Noted...




REED

 

Here's a good read on the anti-trust lawsuit. There is a prior related article that is also good.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/12/...onopsony-cung-le-nate-quarry-jon-fitch-part-2