What British fighters are hope or hype?

I have a biased view being British, but out of Carl Froch, Amir Khan, David Haye, Kell Brook, James de Gale, Frankie Gavin, Kevin Mitchell and maybe even George Groves. Who has the potential to be the next Lennox Lewis or Joe Calzaghe and take the boxing world by storm in a big way.

 

All day

Personally, i think Amir has got what it takes to be a massive, global star under Freddie Roach. I think he can own Light welter weight division with in a couple years.:mj::mj:

 

Definitely, the most talented of the bunch

 

Froch is,... probably overrated in Britain,.. but maybe not overrated in the rest of the world,.. he's turned out a little better than I thought he'd be, but a loss or 4 is inevitable. I dont know much about the rest of them,.. Khan maybe a bit overrated globally,..but he's still sort of a young prospect,....one guy in that list though,.. is probably the most overrated in the entire sport,.. there's this deception that's been created by the press that Haye is something incredible,.. yet so far, he's proven to be nothing but a chinny, loudmouthed, bitch-fighter at heavyweight.

 

To be honest he's more underrated, compared to the other fighters mentioned he hardly generates any kind of media hype

 

DeGale is much better than Groves

 

Carl Froch-Hope
Amir Khan-Hype
David Haye-Hopey Hypey
Kell Brook-Hype
James de Gale-Hype
Frankie Gavin-Hope
Kevin Mitchell -Hope
George Groves-Don't care.

 

Brook is better than Mitchell imo

 

Only thing he's owning is a clean Quran..

 

Khan will definitely dominate the light-welterweights

 

Breidis Prescott

 

Rustico Torrecampo

 

Carl Froch- flukey lucky but has alot of heart and power
Amir Khan-best i think out of these guys
David Haye-Hopey Hypey
Kell Brook-sick power and accuracy not sure about the defence
James de Gale-undecided
Frankie Gavin-Has the abilty and proven at amatuer ranks
Kevin Mitchell -Hope
George Groves-Has ability

 

That doesn't speak well for British talent right now. Wasn't he KTFO in the 1st round?

 

He was young and got caught cold, it happens, doesn't mean he isn't talented

 

Amir is top 3 speed fighters in the world! Speed kills, he sparrs with manny and trained by Roach. Should be a good prospect.


ALLDAY

 

Yeah, perhaps your right,.. I do frequent British based boxing articles and, Froch doesn't garner much attention,..

But Haye,... WOW..
"Edison Miranda / Warrior promotions press release level hype" .....for what?...his 'impressive, intelligent performance over giant russian Nicolay Valuev' ,.. most people scored that fight for Valuev :laughing: ,.. or 'Knocking down Monte Barrett 5 times!!!' ...:: Solis anniahlated him recently in 3, quick, eeeaaassssyyyyyyy rounds,.. why didn't they mention Barrett clocking Haye onto his back,..and then Haye had a cry...and walked to the corner and took another knee to get over it... "His jab, felt like a cruiserweight right"..

The Haye hype, is ridiculous.

 

Haye still was a top Cruiser weight though, so he's definatly not just hype job yet, id like to see if he will use his hand speed to good effect against Vitali or Vlad. i think if he can jab and move, hes got a good chance against one of them.

 

Amir Khan has NO CHIN.

It wasn't just Prescott....Willie Limond had him going and so did Michael Gomez....come on. The guy has been hurt by non punchers.

 

Hasn't been down since the Prescott loss

 

i want to see Khan vs Bradley

 

And not a puncher amongst those opponents.

It doesn't take a boxing insider to figure out why they prefer Malinaggi over Maidana as an opponent.

They won't go near Valero either.

 

I would venture that Kotelnik hits harder than Gomez and Limmond

 

Perhaps, but they're still not anything close to punchers.

 

Well Gomez put Khan down with one shot, Kotelnik hits harder and landed a couple similar shots on Khan and he took them fine. People seem to be under the impression that anybody who lands once on Khan will put him down, when that isn't the case.

 

How about Anthony Small?

 

Carl Froch-Takes the world by storm by winning super 6. Long way to go, but if he does it, he is Calz/Lewis good on the spot.

Amir Khan-Super talent. Chin questions. Enough opponents to establish himself as a potential great, but no super rival at 140 except maybe valero and then the 147 guys.

David Haye-Beat a Klitschko = hero. Unlikely.

Kell Brook-Great watch. One of my favorite prospects right now, but no idea how good he really is or will be.

James de Gale-Always like good ams.

Frankie Gavin-Always like good ams.

Kevin Mitchell - Good, but don't see top notch potential.

George Groves-Don't know him.

 

Froch is the best on the list right now, based simply on what he has done thus far. And he is criminally underrated IMHO, and this is from a bloke who has never really rated him until recently. He is legitimately undefeated, holds a genuine 'world' title, is unbelievably gusty & tough and has had some very good wins. The Taylor KTFO is arguably a better win than any of the near fifty or so scored by Calzaghe in his entire career and Pascal has established himself at world level at light-heavy.

Carl is crude and looks like a brutal KTFO waiting to happen, yet no-one has really come close thus far and he might well win the Super Six. If he does, he establishes himself as one of Britain's best, ever.

Khan has recovered well from the Prescott debacle but his chin remains a major worry. Offensively, the guy is extremely good indeed- very fast and with good power. He has become a more effective fighter under Roache BUT you simply cannot put muscles on a chin, and Khan's jaw is made of sheer glass. He has been seriously hurt by truly feather-fisted fighters and was turned turtle by a guy that Kevin Mitchell made look very ordinary.

I think Amir takes a lot of undeserved stick, but he needs to stop trawling the world for the most pillow-fisted 'elite' fighters he can find (hello Paulie) and take on someone who is a legitimate threat to his chin. There is a monkey on his back and it will remain there until he fights a Maidana or the like and beats them.

Haye has become very overrated by the general public and very underrated by boxing forums. His profile in the UK is HUGE for a boxer and he has carried the torch passed on by Calzaghe and Hatton in that regard. This has seen him become overrated by Joe Public and disliked by most hardcore boxing fans who have conveniently forgotten that he unified the Cruiserweight division before moving up. I rather like him and his shit-talking; it makes me laugh immensely and is a change from the monotone, bland bollocks usually spouted by fighters. He did well to beat Valuev with one hand to win the WBA bauble BUT after all the shit-talking he needs to fight a very different fight against Ruiz. John is very shopworn at this point and Haye should go in there and try to take him out.

He is not 'the' heavyweight champion, of course, until he licks a Klit, and if he does so he becomes a hero overnight. I don't think he has any chance at all of beating Vitali. That is a terrible style matchup for him IMHO. Wlad, and his shitty chin, offer greater potential but David has to find a way around one of the best HW jabs in history to land that right hand and I don't think he'll do it.

Of the others, Brook will win a 'world' title very soon IMHO. He has one of the best offensive arsenals in the game and will show the world shortly.

Mitchell-Katsidis is a toss up for me. Michael can obviously be beaten but only the best lightweights have done it so far and he is tremendous fun to watch. This will be the first and probably the only time I'll watch him fight and not be rooting for him. Kevin showed a different side of him in the Prescott fight and it was a side I didn't think he really had. He'll need to fight that way against Katsidis, because going to war ala the Johannsson fight would be a serious error IMHO.

I hate DeGale and thought his Olympic final was the single most ugly, eye-watering affair I have ever watched, but he is showing marked improvement in each fight and his last encounter was extremely impressive- lots of fast, effective cluster punches with concussive power. He will win a title IMHO but will struggle to be a star because he is completely unlikeable- all this 'chunky' rubbish needs to stop and his entrance to the ring in his last fight was cringmaking.

Gavin has all the skills in the world and is one of the best technical fighters we have ever produced and it would be astonishing if he didn't win himself a 'world' title. He is a personable sort and will do well, even though I think he lacks real, knockout power.

George Groves isn't good enough to win world honours for me. I think he'll level out at European level.

To answer Barristan, Anthony Small is a collossal bellend who is all flash and absolutely no substance. He reminds me a lot of Junior Witter, with that horrific 'style', except (unlike Witter) Small has very little in the way of concussive power. I honestly think he's garbage and has no chance of winning world honours.

Others not mentioned include Darren Barker, who I think is very close to challenging for 'world' honours, and Nathan Cleverly, who is already one of the best ten LHW's right now. He has the potential to be very good indeed.

MTF

 

Pryce. Bradley Pryce.

 

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I thought that was a very accurate anaylsis of each boxer, i think i agree with nearly each thing you say. Although i think Groves would beat De Gale in a pro fight, he's beaten him before.

i cant belivie i forgot to add Nathan Cleverly to that list, i want to see him fight Chad Dawson. i thinks hes got a big future ahead of him.