What fighters from the past ...

Would have done well in today's MMA and which ones would have failed badly.

As in famous martial artists, renowned street fighters or whatever.

I use the term "fighter" in a broad sense, as before MMA came out a lot of that type of fighting was only done in undergroud circuits or in other countries. (in competitions)

 

Bruce Lee woulda whipped all asses, whiskey. Watahhhh!!!!!!!

 

He would have whipped most! Bruces invented MMA back in the 60's and it only took 38 years for people to catch on. Bruce was ahead of his time thats for sure.

 

Bruce has no known record of fighting in a nhb competition,so my vote goes to Frank dux who would own bruce if they ever fought :jester:

 

:jester: You are trying to be funny right? I hope so because thats flat out stupid.

The REAL Frank Dux is a scrub and a lier. Bruce would have beaten him to death in a fight. I suggest you read "Tao of Jeet Kune Do" and you will realize Bruce created MMA. Ask any fighter that knew Bruce and they will tell you if anybody thought they could beat Bruce they better have packed a lunch because it was going to be an all day job.

 

Problem is, Bruce trained to kill, not compete on a points system. So he'd end up really hurting guys in MMA but he'd get banned for fighting outside of the rules.:jester: He'd take their eyes, their throats, their nuts, whatever quickest way to take them out. His inhuman speed allowed him to do this. He didn't enjoy doing fancy crap like wrestling around with a guy, looking for a takedown or armbar or whatever. He'd just go for the pivotal point, because that's how real life is.
Remember Don Frye/Gilbert Yvel in Pride? Don was trying to take him down, and Gilbert did a little poke(accidental?) to Don's eye and Don was whining and crying like a girl, holding his eye!:jester: :jester: What did Don's MMA do for him then?:jester:
That's all it really takes, that's what Bruce praised. Kill the enemy by any means necessary.
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Bruce invented MMA???? :loveballs:

catch wrestiling has been around since about the time dirt came about.....

 

Well im just kidding with the frank dux thing. But isnt the gracies doing nhb since the 40's? they may not be complete (striking sucks) but i think they've been fighting diff. styles b4 bruce lee (if bruce ever competed).

 

These Bruce Lee lovers are hilarious.

If those Chuck Norris lists that were going around a while back were replaced with Lee's name, some guys would be on here saying they were all facts. :loveballs: :jester:

 

Fuck catch WRESTLING! Bruce was the first to preach cross-training in different styles and that monkey nutz is MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!!

 

LOL how does someone invent MMA without being in a single fight.. ?? The guy was .. an .... actor...

 

Bruce was a MARTIAL ARTIST first and actor second! It's dumb motherfuckers like you that know's nathen about the man other then he acted in movies.

Bruce never got in any fights?:loveballs: :jester: :jester: YES he did Bruce got in ALOT of fight's.

 

you know what catch wrestling is??? judging by this post I'd think you dont


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_wrestling

 

It just makes me wonder. If this guy really was the greatest athlete and fighter in the world and wanted the world to know it, why didn't he compete at anything but instead beat up some drunks on backyards and made C-class movies that make Arnold Schwarzenegger's fighting look realistic and intelligent

 

Good question but dont expect a real answer from Lee nuthuggers though.

Mas Oyama is a much better example of a Martial Arts master who actually did have RECORDED fights with other martial artists instead of myths and legends like Bruce Lee.

 

MMA was practised in ancient Greece it was called Pankretion then . Bruce Lee did not invent MMA.

 

Benny "The Jet" Urquidez would have done well...

 

Bad News Brown woulda whupped ass in his prime.

 

Pankretion is a art of fighting in and of it's self. It's nothing more then wrestling mixed with boxing. When it comes to cross-training in different fighting systems (which is MMA) yes Bruce was the first to preach it. Back then everybody thought their own style was the best and Bruce knew better, no one style is the best. And to be a well rounded fighter you would have to cross-train in all aspects of fighting and thats how the concept of Jeet Kune Do was born.
Everything you see happening in UFC and Pride today Bruce was preaching it in the 60's.

 

:2: :2: Exactly. If guys like CroCop, Matt Hughes, Randy Couture and all them had read up on Bruce's teachings, they woulda figured out sooner that they had to broaden their skills in other areas of combat in order to reach the levels they ultimately did. That's what Bruce's philosophy is all about. Be formless! Don't use one style and consider it as being the best. Take what's useful and discard what isn't.

 

Stop the Bruce Lee nuthugging there where MMA fighters before him. They just did'nt call it MMA

Pankretion = mixing boxing and wrestling +kicking which is MMA.

Most MMA fighters today use a combination of boxing and wrestling.

 

Yes, but they're not formless nor shapeless. They're very routine in their methods, not like water with the ability to adapt to situations that go outside of their elements. That's what Bruce emphasized. Be ready for all situations, be like water. When water goes into a cup, it becomes the cup. It can flow or it can crash.

 

Biography for
Bruce Lee

Birth name
Lee Jun Fan

Height
5' 7½" (1.71 m)

Bruce Lee was born "Lee Juan Fan" in November 1940 in San Francisco, the son of Lee Hoi Chuen, a singer with the Cantonese Opera. Approximately, one year later the family returned to Kowloon in Hong Kong and at the age of 5, a young Bruce begins appearing in children's roles in minor films including The Birth of Mankind (1946) and Fu gui fu yun (1948). At the age of 12, Bruce commenced attending La Salle College, and was later beaten up by a street gang, which inspires him to take up martial arts training under the tuition of "Sifu Yip Man" who schools Bruce in wing chun kung fu for a period of approximately five years (this was the only formalized martial arts training ever undertaken by Lee). The talented & athletic Bruce also took up cha-cha dancing, and at the age of 18 won a major dance championship in Hong Kong.

However, his temper and quick fists saw him fall foul of the HK police on numerous occasions, and his parents suggested that he head off to the United States. Lee landed in San Francisco's Chinatown in 1959 and worked in a relative's restaurant, however he eventually made his way to Seattle, Washington where he enrolled at university to study philosophy, and found the time to practice his beloved kung fu techniques. In 1963, Lee met Linda Emery (later his wife) and in addition he opened his first kung fu school at 4750 University Way. During the early half of the 1960s, Lee became associated with many key martial arts identities in the USA including kenpo karate expert Ed Parker and tae kwon do master Jhoon Rhee. He made guest appearances at notable martial arts events including the Long Beach Nationals.


Spouse
Linda Lee Cadwell (17 August 1964 - 20 July 1973) (his death) 2 children

Use of Jeet Kun Do, a form of martial arts he invented himself in which freedom of reaction was far more important than rigid form.

Father of Brandon Lee.

Died of brain edema in Hong Kong at age 32.

He is considered the greatest martial artist of the 20th century.

Developed his martial art style called Jeet Kune Do (Way of the Intercepting Fist) which is more of an idea of being flexible and practical with learning martial arts

Father of Shannon Lee

Interred at Lake View Cemetery, Seattle, Washington, USA.


Bruce Lee Jun Fan Yuen Kam (Bruce Lee's full birth name) was born in the year of the dragon (1940), at the hour of the dragon (between 6:00AM- 8:00AM).

Was an accomplished dancer and Hong Kong cha cha cha champion.

A noted brawler in Hong Kong, Lee received formal training in wing chun under legendary sifu Yip Man. He later trained in a variety of arts before creating his Jeet Kune Do style.

Weighed only 128 pounds at the time of his death.

Suffered a serious back injury while attempting a good-morning. During his recuperation, he wrote several books on the martial arts.

His students in Jeet Kune Do martial arts included 'Kareem Abdul- Jabbar' , Steve McQueen and James Coburn.

His ancestry is German and Chinese. His father is a full-blooded Chinese, while his mother is of German-Chinese decent (her father is German; her mother is Chinese).

His development of Jeet Kune Do came partially out of an incident with his school. A rival martial artist challenged him to a duel over his decision to teach non chinese students. Bruce Lee accepted the challenge and won the duel, but he later thought that the fight took too long because his martial art technique was too rigid and formalistic. Thus he decided to develop a better system with an emphasis on practicality and flexibilty.

Was constantly challenged by movie extras and other men seeking to gain fame by beating him in a fight.

Left for Seattle in 1958 with $100. Gave cha cha cha lessons to first-class passengers to earn extra money during ship ride to US.

Was sought after for instruction by established martial artists such as Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris.

Faced discrimination from other Chinese kung fu masters when trying to learn other martial arts styles. Would usually go to the number 3 or 4 man in a certain system to learn it in exchange for teaching what he knew.

Demand for his private lessons grew so high, his hourly rate soared to $275 per hour.

Spoke English, Cantonese, Mandarin and Japanese.

Was able to name every single karate term and performed them with dead accuracy.

Adopted his legendary nunchaku routine in his movies from the legendary karate master Hidehiko "Hidy" Ochiai. The two met at the Los Angeles YMCA in the mid 1960s.

Earned $30,000 for his first two feature films.

Developed a trick for showing off his speed: a person held a coin and closed his hand, and as he closed it, Lee would take it and could even swap the coin for another.

His death was considered to be under 'extraordinarily bizarre' circumstances by many experts. Many people claimed that it was the work of 'Oni' (Japanese for Demons or evil spirits), while others claimed he was cursed. The theory of the 'Curse of Bruce Lee' carried over to the extremely bizarre death of his son, Brandon Lee, who was shot and killed during the filming of 'The Crow' in 1993.

Mastered a technique called "The One Inch Punch", in which he could deliver a devastating blow yet have his fist travel a mere one inch (2.54 cm) in distance before striking an opponent.


Has a statue placed in the country Bosnia. After many years of war and religious splits, Lee's figure is to commend his work, to successfully bridge culture gaps in the world (2004 September).

His father, Lee Hoi Chuen (b. February 1901, died 8 February 1965) was a popular stage actor, and died 8 days after Brandon Lee was born.

Lee was trained by Yip Man from 1954-1957 & Wong Shun-Leung from 1957-58.

Defeated British boxer Gary Elms by knockout in the 3rd round in the 1958 Hong Kong amateur boxing championships. Before he met Elms in the finals, he knocked out three boxers in the first round. Hawkings Cheung, his fellow Wing Chun street fighter, witnessed the event.

Bruce Lee knocked out Wong Jack-Man in Oakland, California in a 1965 no-holds barred challenge match. It was Lee's last official fight. It lasted three minutes.

Lee knocked-out Chung, a Choy Li Fut fighter, in Hong Kong in a 1958 Full-Contact match. The match was refereed by Wong Shun-Leung.

Lee knocked-out Uechi in 10 seconds in a 1963 Full-Contact match in Seattle. It was refereed by Jesse Glover.

Had four siblings, two sisters and two brothers: Phoebe Lee (b. 1938), Agnes Lee, older brother and fencing champion Peter Lee, and younger brother and musician Robert Lee.

Son of Hoi-Chuen Lee

He was a gang leader in his teenage years. The name of his group was known as "The Tigers of Junction Street".

UFC President Dana White considers Bruce Lee as "the father of Mixed Martial Arts".

Alongside Muhammad Ali, he is cited as a major influence by many K-1 and MMA champions: Bas Rutten, Jose "Pele" Landi-Jons, Wanderlei Silva, Emilianenko Fedor, Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto, Rob Kaman, Ramon Dekkers, Frank Shamrock, Murilo and Mauricio Rua, Jerome Le Banner, Carlos Newton, Remy Bonjasky, Jeremy Horn, David Loiseau and Tito Ortiz among others.

To mark the occasion of what would have been Lee's 65th birthday (27 November 1940), a bronze statue of a topless Bruce adopting a martial arts stance was unveiled in Hong Kong, effectively kicking off a week-long Bruce Lee festival

Buried in Lake View Cemetery in Seattle.


"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."

"The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering."

"Don't think, feel! It is like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory."

"A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."

"I don't believe in different ways of fighting now, I mean, unless human beings have 3 arms and 3 legs - then we will have a different way of fighting. But basically we all have two arms and two legs so that is why I believe there should be only one way of fighting and that is no way."

"If you always put limits on what you can do, physical or anything else, it'll spread over into the rest of your life. It'll spread over into your work, into your mortality, into your entire being. There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you."

"There's no challenge in breaking a board. Boards don't hit back."


I have always been a martial artist by choice, an actor by profession, but above all, am actualising myself to be an artist of life

 

That is pretty damn impressive if you ask me

 

Bruce was the real deal.

 

Proven by the fact that he defeated legends such as Chung, Uechi, Wong Jack-Man and Gary Elms?

Shit, I am sure Sylvester Stallone in his recent form could beat ten Wong Jack-Men and after he beats Antonio Tarver in December (like Bruce Lee "beat" Chuck Norris), you guys would hail him as the greatest fighter ever

 

No this is impressive

 

:loveballs: First he never fought now it's he never fought a "legend". Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

If Bruce wasn't shit there would not be 20 million people including world class fighters claiming he was.

Bruce Lee is the father of MIXED MARTIAL ARTS.

 

Wong Jack-Man would definately agree with you!

 

Bruce was a pioneer of deadly street fighting. Street fighting was his area of expertise, where 2 fingers could become weapons as lethal as switchknives. Where a sidekick could be as dangerous as a 22 magnum. He knew how to kill with his bare hands. Only the newbies and smartasses are the ones who are downplaying Bruce's skills. They think just cause he acted in some movies(several being the highest grossing in Hong Kong in history and one being one of the highest grossing in the States), that he can't fight worth a shit.
Not true at all.:nono: