Which was a better fight?

Both were great fights, years from now all time classics, but which fight was better?

 

I don't think it's even close.

 

2 knockdowns in the first minute or so and then a war thereafter with 2 more knockdowns or a slow starting war/beatdown and two kneeldowns.

 

Tito-Vargas,excitmentwise,was mos def the better fight.Stylistically tho',Margo-Cotto may be the better fight.The way Margo just bore down on Cotto.... round after round...taking every shot in the book... was unbelieveable.

For a thrill-a-moment experience,Titi and Fernando brought the house down..The KDs...the low-blows...Nando's machismo..all made for an eternally unforgettable fight.

 

cotto is the more likable guy. therefore I prefer watching vargas pummelled.

 

stupid poll

:atu: wtf


Cotto was out of the fight from round 5 onwards....one sided as it gets

 

I'm going with Tito/Vargas.

 

Tito-Vargas is one of the best fights ever, everything was there, the hype, the drama, the violence. Cotto Margarito was a good fight, but as Roll with the punch pointed, at a certain point, not the 5th IMO, but a little bit later, it was obvious that Cotto was getting the fight beaten out of him.

 

tito-vargas

 

Posters here can laugh at the topic, but I actually received HATE mail for dare suggesting that Tito-Vargas was the superior fight, or that Margarito-Cotto was anything short of the best fight ever.

To me, it's not even close. I'm amazed though that so much has been thought of this fight. It was a damn good fight, but not even the best of the year, never mind of the 2000's

 

tito-vargas was an excellent fight
cotto-margarito was a good fight.

 

I go with Tito-Vargas as well, just thought I'd make the poll as the fight draws parrels between eachother. But yeah, Tito-Vargas has to be one of the best all time fights.

 

Actually Tito-Vargas was a GREAT fight, and Cotto-Margarito was an excellent fight.

 

complete nonsense

 

that's a matter of opinion x.

 

margarito-cotto wasn't all that great in terms of action, but kinda like hopkins-tito, it was a DRAMATIC fight.

if soto-karass vs. estrada played out the same, folks would've said it was a decent scrap on telefutura.

 

I think that's the case with a lot of "great" fights, though...the context matters because you don't always get action and violence in major fights.

Margarito made sure of that, though, because Cotto fought mostly in retreat.

I think that played a part in the reaction...people who may not have had a significant rooting interest before the fight probably ended up wanting to see Margarito catch him because he was the one constantly coming forward. A Margario win promised more violence than a Cotto one...so seeing him do it probably made for a more satisfying ending.

Also, the state of boxing is a factor in all this. Had Trinidad-Vargas happened in 2008 and Margarito-Cotto happened in 2000, opinions (of those who preferred Margarito-Cotto) might be different.

 

I thought both were great fights.

Trinidad-Vargas is quite possibly my most watched fight ever. And I assume in time, Margarito-Cotto will be up there also.

 

tito-vargas, its not even close imo

cotto did alot of dancing that took away from the excitement in the fight, plus tito vargas had more drama, both were in trouble during the fight, margarito was never in trouble and never hurt, he was only in danger of loosing a close decision, and after the 7th round it was pretty clear he was going to win the fight. didnt have me on the edge of my seat.

 

:bears:

 

Tito-Vargas by a MILE...

It had 6 Knockdowns, ALL of which were More IMPRESSIVE than the 2 Kneeldowns N Margarita-Cotto...Not Only That, but BOTH Tito & Vargas Tasted the Canvas...

N Tito-Vargas, it Took about 20 Seconds for the Fireworks to Begin...Round 1 is an AWESOME Display of Offense from Tito & it STILL Amazes REED that Vargas Made it OUT of that Round...

It's NOT Even Close...Tito-Vargas was the SUPERIOR Fight...& that's NO Slight on Margarita-Cotto...



REED:kidcool:

 

maybe to your teenybopper eyes :nono:

 

Interesting.

I started off with "It's not even close, imo" with the impression that Margarito/Cotto was better. Seems I'm far into the minority.

Vargas/Tito, as I remember, was very one-sided with Vargas having a round of hope that wasn't that close to victory due to getting hit in the nuts.

I thought Margarito/Cotto had plenty of uncertainty because of how often Margarito kept getting hit cleanly.

 

I agree Cotto/Margarito changed midway throught the fight. after the first half of the fight Cotto was winning easy on the scorecards even though he was running out of gas. Margarito turned it around and stoped him dramatically which is something nobody had done before to Cotto.

Titto had Vargas on the floor twice in the first round. Vargas surviving until the 12th round only showed he could take an ass whipping for a long time. He was never winnning the fight and he never showed he was going to.

 

After a Strong START, it WASN'T Until the 8th or 9th Round, where Tito Appeared to B CLEARLY N Control Again...

After Weathering the 1st Round, Vargas CLEARLY Worked his Way Back INTO the Proceedings...DROPPING Tito N Round 4, then Getting the BENEFIT of a Point Deduction or 2...

Tito-Vargas was ANYBODY's Fight Until the 8th or 9th (Would have to REwatch to Say Which Round for Sure), N REED's Opinion...

6 Knockdowns (Both Men Floored), EVEN Exchanges & FREQUENT Shifts N Momentum...

By Comparison, Cotto was Fairly Dominant til the Midpoint, then Got COMPLETELY Dominated the Rest of the Way...There was ONE Shift N Momentum...There were NO Exchanges after the Midpoint, just a PUMMELING...& the 2 Kneeldowns PALE N Comparison to the Quality of the 6 Vargas-Tito Knockdowns...

If a Casual Fan Watched BOTH Fights, REED Thinks they'd Get More CONSISTENT Entertainment from Tito-Vargas...



REED:hammert:

 

Tito-Vargas BY A MILE!!!

Shame on you, Xplosive, for even suggesting that this is a contest! :kick:

 

Actually Vargas about 3 straight good rounds that he clearly won, before Tito hurt him again and re-took control for the rest of the fight.

 

Agreed.

Trinidad beat Vargas badly in the first round, won the 2nd, and the third was close. Vargas had some good moments in round 3, after Tito was thumbed. Vargas dropped Tito in round 4 and dominated round 5, but Trinidad turned things around late in round 6 with a right hand when he had Vargas cornered. Trinidad won rounds 7 and 8 IMO, but Vargas had his moments there too. He landed some good bodyshots in round 8 (of course Foreman went crazy). Round 9 was a classic round with both guys beating each other up. I thought Trinidad won that round, but it was close. Round 10 was Trinidad's, and Vargas came back with a strong finish in round 11.

I guess you can say Trinidad re-established control in terms of winning rounds (on my card) in round 6, but there were close rounds and Vargas was certainly doing good work. When seeing it the first time, I didn't get the impression watching it that "now Trinidad's got this! around these rounds". It's just that Trinidad's work was more powerful and had a lasting effect.

Another thing about this fight.....people say that Vargas picked the wrong fight and traded too much, and stayed within range. I don't think that was the case, because Trinidad was too accurate and getting to Vargas even when Nando was using the ring and boxing. Trinidad simply caught Vargas early on with a great left hook, countering a jab. Vargas did have success later on boxing, especially in round 5. However, Trinidad was able to get to Vargas with good shots, hurting him in round 6 when he cornered Vargas. In rounds 7 and 8, Vargas again tried to use the ring more, but Tito was still able to catch Vargas with good hard right hands. In round 9, Vargas was again trying to retreat, but Tito's straight right hand caught him anyway. Vargas then spent a lot of the round trading at range with Trinidad, and took a lot of punishment.

 

We can see you've watched this fight a lot! Good recap.

 

I think the perception of Cotto/Margarito is skewed because
A:It's recent
B:It lived up to the pre fight hype
C:Justified it's PPV price tag

Clearly it was good fight, but as for great, I would say no. I think Tito/Vargas was very good, but not great.

Corrales/Castillo was great.