Who hates Lennox Lewis the most?

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Who hates Lewis the Most

  1. LOK - unabashed Lewis hater, but at least he's honest.

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    40.0%
  2. Esk59 - Tries to pretend he is objective, but he isn't fooling anyone.

    18 vote(s)
    60.0%
  1. broadwayjoe

    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Who hates Lennox Lewis the most, LOK or Esk59?

    LOK makes no bones about it...he HATES Lewis. Esk59, on the other hand, chooses to attempt to disguise his hate and pretends he is being objective when every single thing he posts about Lewis is actually a put-down of some sort.

    So what do you think? Who is the champion of Lewis haters?
     
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  2. Hanz

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    Esk by far! LOK has his own reasons for hating Lewis and they're not that far fetched. LOK believes Lewis could've done more in the ring in certain fights and been more badass like in the Tua fight.
    Esk just hates Lewis for the sake of hating him. I've seen posts from Esk 3 years ago where he goes on a rampage of Lewis-hate.
     
  3. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    LOK is actually a smart man and knows his boxing. I would say Esk, for his blind hate and general lack of knowledge on anything.
     
  4. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I remember when Lok had to chose between Vitali and Lewis on Boxingtime.

    Esk easily.
     
  5. mexican wedding shirt

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    That's my main reason for hating him.

    No doubt he was a highly effective heavyweight, but one thing I can't STAND in boxing, and just despise - is boxers fighting like fucking bitches and pussies against smaller men.

    Lewis' showing against the cruiserweight Holyfield in their rematch was a fucking disgrace, so was his showing against Tua and others.

    Cowering away from smaller men behind this pawing jab, a disgrace.
     
  6. steve_dave

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    Cruiserweight Holyfield. :lol:
     
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  7. Hanz

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    A 220lb Holyfield who knocked out the biggest and most powerful heavyweights ever. I don't know, mex!:dunno:
     
  8. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It's a good think he "allegedly" took steroids, then, to even the playing field.
     
  9. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    David Tua has one punch power. How smart is it to give up your advantage and try to trade with him?:dunno: How about trying to trade with Holyfield who was one of the best brawlers in his day?
     
  11. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If Lewis was pillow-fisted nobody would make the argument.

    But because he had both skill and power, he's expected to neglect one for the other.
     
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    He didn't even use skill. He used his size and reach advantages along with pure safety first stink.

    Floyd uses skill, there's a difference.
     
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    So since he looked so good to you he should have fought other way than the way that wins him fights?
     
  14. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yeah, but he also uses his quickness...which is as unfair an advantage as size is.
     
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    With the way some guys on here are talking, you'd think any tall guy could step in there and just safely paw at Tua and Holyfield to a decision win.:lol:
     
  16. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Not only that, but in the later rounds against Tua Lewis did open up...and looked great.
     
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    Dsimon Writes;

    Indeed. Your point is valid. Holyfield said it best frankly. When asked about the first fight he said that Lewis had no reason to complain because he didn't try to knock him out, i.e. he did not really go after Holly.

    I don't hate Lewis and he is one of my favorites but at times his safety first strategy was annoying.
     
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    I think it's pretty close between the two. I still remember the first time I came to this forum way back when it first started (I wanna say 2002) and the first topic I saw was from LOK and it was titled something like "LEMMON LUMMOX IS A FREAKIN BUM LOSER!!":lol:
     
  19. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That's a complete joke. Holyfield won 3-4 rounds at best on most of the impartial scorecards night.

    To put forth a standard above just winning more rounds/points is ridiculous.

    How many other fighters are held to that kind of standard?
     
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    When talking about standards, how about this...

    Let's say Pacman moved up to welterweight to fight Mosley, a similar size difference to Holy against Lewis.

    And Mosley fought like a fucking bitch, backpeddling all the way, just pawing out a defensive jab into pacman's face, while leaning back, standing tall, doing everything short of climbing out of the ring to avoid taking a punch.

    Fuck me, he'd be a laughing stock, fighting a much smaller man that way. It would taint his career. Yet with Lewis it's ok, because that's his magic, winning style? :dunno:
     
  21. Hanz

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    I definitely agree that Lewis could've done a lot more against Holyfield.
     
  22. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Just so I understand this scenario you've laid out, does this move up in weight come a decade before they actually fight?
     
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    No, if Pacman fought Mosley right now weighing 130 pounds, and mosley weighing 147.

    That's a 17 pound difference compared to a 30 odd pound difference with Holy and Lewis, and a few inches in height, like holy and lewis.

    The weight difference is proportional obviously.
     
  24. Mitchell Kane

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    Does Pacquiao get to "allegdly" use steroids?
     
  25. LOK

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    no doubt..

    great comparison actually.. that is excatly what it is like..

    and it's not just with Holy.. Lemmon fought like a bitch with almost everyone, which actually spawned my "tyson will KO him in 30 seconds" I really believed he'd either run backing up or just fold and Mike would KO him..

    if Lennox was more agressive IMO he'd be more recognized as a great
     
  26. Mitchell Kane

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    I agree.

    It's a better comparison than, say, Ali-Spinks or Holmes-Spinks, because neither Ali nor Holmes had weight advantages in those fights...plus, they won.

    Whereas Lewis had a weight advantage and lost.
     
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    It's true that Lewis does fight scared. But what I dislike about him the most is how he avoids so many opponents.

    DLH was criticized for so long for fighting old name fighters such as Chavez and Whitaker.

    But he also took the chances against the young guys even when he was the underdog.

    Lewis always took the safety first approach and just flat out avoided many fighters and just claimed they weren't worthy.

    Then he beat up on Mike Tyson and retired. WTF?

    That would be like Larry Holmes retiring after beating Ali.
     
  28. Hanz

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    But even when he was aggressive against Mercer, Briggs, Ruddock, Golota, Vitali, Morrison, etc...you were still talking sh*t about him.:lol:
     
  29. steve_dave

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    :laughing:
     
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    I voted Esk because he seems to try to give more a real effort and seems more serious.

    While LOK says things that are obviously jokes like "Lemmon Loser lost to an AIDS patient in Mohawk"
     

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