Who Hit Harder - SR Robinson or Trinidad

OK - This is not p4p or KO percentage. Not relative to each weight but , just straight up ..

In other words if you got punched in the face by either guy , who do you think would hurt you more -
Tito at 147 or Sugar Ray Robinson at 160 ?

 

With or without hand-wraps?

 

Harder?...Trinidad

 

wait whats with the fucking poll

 

Robinson, easily. When he was 36, he knocked out Gene Fullmer with what's often called the greatest left hook in the history of the sport. I mean, that's one of the most famous knockouts of all time. And Fullmer was one of the toughest fighters of the era, no William Joppy.

 

Comebacking Robinson at 160 vs 147 pound Trinidad???... Definitely Robinson. Bigger man, faster hands, and definitely a harder punch.

At 147, its closer. But Robinson's hand speed is what really made his power that much more devastating.

 

Thank You Puerto Rock. No-one is taking away from Tito's power. We all know he could bang with the best but , common sense is just common sense .. Something Alabama man is lacking on this subject.

 

if we're talking at the same weight, then its trinidad.

Trinidad has punishing power, robinson is a punishing puncher.

Robinson is fast and places punches well. Trinidad isn't as fast but has heavier hands and a harder shot.

 

How can you watch the Fullmer rematch and not think that Robinson had punishing power? When did Trinidad knock out ANYONE that tough? The toughest and cageyest fighters usually took Trinidad the distance. That wasn't the case of Robinson.

Jaws, you really don't deserve to post in this section, because it's pretty obvious that you don't know shit.

 

At 147, I think Robinson was still a harder puncher. He could take guys out with 1 punch. Trinidad's power was more concussive than anything else. He didn't take you out with one punch usually, but he could hurt you badly with just one punch and thus turn the momentum of the fight.

The combination of hand speed and power is very tough to combat because even the hardest of chins can go when the fighter can't see the punches coming.

 

First of all you're basing SRR off of 1 fucking KO, and as great as it may have been you're not providing a good argument that that was the norm for SRR. Secondly Tito rarely hit guys and not have some kind of an effect on them dispite your lies/suspect knowledge.

 

No. I was simply assuming that a few of you might have actually watched boxing. I was wrong. Robinson was pound-for-pound the greatest offensive fighter ever, or perhaps second to Joe Louis. Trinidad? He was a minor titlist who never pulled off a kayo against a major opponent. Ray Robinson stopped Jake LaMotta. Jake LaMotta! And there are a ton of other names on his resume that I would discuss on a more intermediate forum, but I'm afraid that they'd fly over your heads.

 

Earnie Shavers.

great point jackass

 

The thing is, any power shot from trinidad that lands is a fight changer.

He wasn't very good, but his power changed fights. Robinson beat up on people usually by landing 100's of shots. The Fullmer fight is almost a fluke punch really. Robinson had good power, with great skill and handspeed.

Trinidad had great power.

 

Earnie Shavers the greatest offensive fighter ever? That's the dumbest thing you've said today. He faded after four rounds. He didn't throw combinations well. He got winded easily. He wasn't a great finisher. The most power ever, perhaps, but there's more to boxing than that.

He landed a number of power shots against Winky Wright, and couldn't change the fight. He landed plenty of power shots against Hopkins and De la Hoya. His power only changed fights when he was up against the Oba Carrs and Yory Boys Campas of the world.

And you think that Fullmer was a fluke? Shit, you said something even dumber. Robinson showed his one-punch power against Mims, Basora, Belliose, Doyle, Bell, Lavigne and Curcio, to name a few. Robinson had twice as many knockouts as Trinidad had fights.

Also, I'm not alone in this opinion, and only a few moronic fanboys like yourself think that Trinidad hit harder than Robinson. Here's how Ring magazine ranked the 100 greatest punchers of all time in 2003:

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Tommy Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White
​

 

LMAO at you being able to teach people how to take standardized tests. They test inference and reasoning ability for the most part. so, smartass here's some reason for you

So the inference here is that because of Trinidad's all-time status and resume he doesn't deserve to be considered in comparison to Sugar Ray Robinson.

As A reply I referenced Earnie Shavers, a man widely thought of to be the "hardest" puncher in history, and at the very least top 3 with Foreman and Tyson.

This thread was titled who hits "harder," not whose harlem dick we love most

 

But we are not judging the same weight. Trinidad at 147 Vs Robinson at 160

 

I'm not really even following the other thread....but shouldn't this be a POUND-FOR-POUND comparison - Trinidad at 147 vs. Robinson at 160?

That seems to be the real issue.

And the question is "who punches HARDER" - not who was the more effective boxer or had more offensive capability.

It's a very hard question to gauge, actually...with ANY boxer comparison.

Peace.

 

The reason why its not p4p or 147 Vs 147 is because Alabama stated that the 147 Welter version of Trinidad hit harder then the 160 Middle weight version of Sugar Ray Robinson because Ray was in his mid 30's ... :jester:

This is the debate and this is why its not a p4p or Welter Vs Welter comparison...

 

Again another lie. I never said Trinidad "hit harder", I said SRR wasn't the same fighter at 40 that he was at 25 and then CleanYourCawk made the imaginary connection that I said one had more power than the other.

Go ahead and browse the thread you won't find me saying any of the above.

But you will find this gem.

:jester: :jester:

Old fart Keyboard warrior talking about his punching power in a debate about Sugar Ray Robinson. How lame can you get? :rollllling:

 

Old Fart ?:jester:

Bro , I would open your head up like a can of tomatoes ..:jester: :jester:

How old are you ?

 

:jester:

I'm in tears. :rollllling:

Let's just say I'm old enough to know that saying "owned" would get me funny looks amongst my peers. B)

 

So you are an old out of shape wanabee ?? :jester:

So you are an older piece of crap that let himself go to shit and now you are making post after post because I used the word owned ?

Yeah , you are really building respect around here ...
Why don't you go troll somewhere else ...

 

Keep guessing!

I don't have time to entertain 35 year old pudgy keyboard warriors with details about my personal life. :neener:

 

So you are ashamed of yourself ?? :jester:
Angry that you couldn't accomplish anything in life ...

It figures ....

 

My life is good. I thank God for what I've been blessed with. You need to relax, this is just the internet. I don't really care if you say "owned", go crazy my friend. B)

 

Well the extreme amount of posts you are dedicating to this subject would say you really do care ..

 

I wonder is even Robinson-Tito would have been this great battle :inbed:

 

I don't know exactly what you're trying to imply. Are you implying that I have some personal vested interest in this other than occupying myself while I drink coffee and attempt to wake up? B)

 

Best post of the thread. :2: