Who REALLY Won The Fight?,.. Froch or Dirrell

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Who Deserved The Decision,..

  1. Carl Froch

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    51.0%
  2. Andre Dirrell

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    49.0%
  1. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    What's the best forum in the world think?.. most websites say Dirrell,.. I haven't seen the fight,..
     
  2. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    I had Dirrell winning 114-113.
     
  3. jaws1216

    jaws1216 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I had Froch winning 114-113:lol:

    Froch deserved to win because he was the champ, and he actually came to fight.
     
  4. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    50 - 50 so far,.. since this is the best forum with the best posters around,... the result of this poll, HAS to be right.
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    I had it for Dirrell 7-5. But I'm not complaining much bout the decision. Froch didnt really WIN it... it was more of a case of Dirrell BLOWING it.
     
  6. The Guru

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    AgREED. I thought Dirrell did a little too much mucking (running and holding). I know he wanted to be careful but I don't think he took enough advantage of his handspeed advantage. It looked like his plan was to wing it from the outside and muck it up when Froch got close.

    It was an ugly fight to watch with all of the holding and holding and hitting and running...

    If Dirrell had started to his assault a little earlier (hurting Froch in round 10) he might have had a chance finish. A risky proposition but he had to know going in he wasn't going to get a decision there...especially with his style.

    I thought he did enough to win but I don't really have a problem with the decision. He should've taken the risk to win and attack Froch earlier.
     
  7. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

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    Then don't watch it Kauki. You'll become a Dirrell hater as he does all kinds of the illegal things that you hate so much. Ducking below the waste, giving his opponent his back (usually when he's running away), and excessive, ineffective and unnecessary clinching.
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    yeah. he should have been disqualified, it was grotesque. something has to be done about holding in boxing these days it's getting worse by the yer
     
  9. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Froch deserved to win the fight, simply because he at least tried to win the fight.

    Dirrell fought like a complete bitch, as bad as anyone I can remember in a long, long time. He spend the first nine rounds running around the ring, circling backwards and out of range, completely unwilling to engage and apparently terrified of getting hit whilst throwing about ten 'punches' a round. Every time Froch got close, Dirrell ducked his head to about knee height, clinched for dear life or threw himself to the floor to force the referee to restart the 'action'...

    When he finally opened up a little, it was far too little too late.

    To be honest, I couldn't believe what I was watching at times. Here is a guy who is totally unproven, so much so that many have questioned whether he should be in the tournament at all, going to another country to fight a champion who is, by most objective standards, as average as hell, and he runs and runs for tweleve rounds like he's fighting in his own backyard against a punching monster ala Julian Jackson. It was just incredible and astonishing to watch, and not the first time either: he pulled the same trick against the might of Curtis Stevens- a fight so bad that his next two weren't even televised!

    Honestly, if I ever have to watch the kid fight again it'll be too soon. I hope Kessler (or anyone else for that matter) breaks his fucking face off.

    MTF :fightme:
     
  10. who?

    who? Undisputed Champion

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    i agree with what youre saying here, but in terms of being overly harsh, i think he should be given a break considering the huge step up in level and publicity. maybe he succumb to nerves.
     
  11. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    I had Dirrell sneaking it, but I can't argue with Froch winning as you shouldn't be able to win world titles by fighting like such a bitch. The thing is, the few times he actually did force the action he had Froch in all kinds of trouble. He has mad talent, and if he could find a couple of things to occupy his scrotum he would be a real force. Froch is shit, but his bird is fucking sexy.
     
  12. Hut*Hut

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    It was right Froch was awarded the fight on general principle. The kind of shit Dirrel was pulling shouldn't be tolerated let alone rewarded, should have been disqualified.
     
  13. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Ohhh dear,.. .....well,.. he hasn't had much experience,...so maybe he's the 'new Wlad' for now but will transcend into somebody with a little more confidence, by the sounds of things, hopefully the last two rounds which he apparently won in style, will open his eyes a little wider, it also doesn't help for him to have American role models like Fraud Mayweather and particularly, Bernard Hopkins,...the latter of which nobody seems to have any problems with.
     
  14. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Froch only had 3 points when I left the forum,.. but when all the British groupies woke up this morning,.. his vote miraculously INCREASED ... :crafty:
     
  15. Matchup_Analyzer

    Matchup_Analyzer Keyboard Warrior

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    I agree, after watching his debacle with Curtis Stevens I never wanted to see this guy fight again. He needs to be on the non televised portion with the rest of the Ian Gardners of the World.
     
  16. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    What last night also confirmed is that Froch is as deeply, deeply average as most sensible thinking people have always thought. As much as I admire the guys tenacity, heart and determination to fight, he is much, MUCH slower than he thinks, his technique is staggeringly poor for a guy who had such a prosperous ammy career he is and his chin is nowhere near as good as people are trying to make it out to be.

    I would be absolutely amazed if Froch saw round eight in his next fight against Kessler. He's much, much more likely to be seeing stars and tweety birds whizzing around his head.

    MTF
     
  17. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think Dirrell's behavior in the fight was so disgraceful, he should be replaced in the tournament. He is not a professional fighter. He is simply a disgrace.

    FROCH is awful. He is a poor man's Andrade.
     
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  18. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Well Free,... after Hopkins reign, many young American fighters may have aspirations to be like him,.. Hopkins tenure in the ring, has awarded him the term 'great' as if it were 'sir' ....alongside 'legend' and 'master craftsman' ..more than any other fighter in history come to think of it,.. so the rewards are there for running, clinching and ducking illegally low,.. with experience, one hopes the new 'Hops' .. can complete his game using all the illegal impliments available, or to put it another way "admireably cunning and ruthless tricks"

    The precedent has been set, and I remain an object of much anger and irritance for enforcing America's own integrity, when a fighter with aspirations like Hopkins arises to peoples dissent.
     
  19. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

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    Direll landed the cleaner, harder blows, and swept the early rounds...He won the fight Carl Crotch is a bum.
     
  20. D.C. Pizza Master

    D.C. Pizza Master Undisputed Champion

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    I'm not British and I just have to say...Andre ran like a complete bitch last night...the type of performance that makes people decide to watch MMA.....of course Froch was the winner
     
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    D.C. Pizza Master Undisputed Champion

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    are you joking?

    direll was pathetic in there
     
  22. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Froch...
     
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    Sadly yes. People I watched the fight with, and who had stayed up until a ridiculous hour to do so, simply uppped and left after five rounds. They were bored absolutely shitless.

    MTF :shit:
     
  24. Octopus

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    It was very close and could of gone either way. They could of even had it a draw and it would of been fine.

    My feeling is they picked Froch because he's way more entertaining than Dirrell and would provide at least one more exciting fight in the tourney. Honestly,who the hell would want to watch Andre again in this tournament after his performance last night?
     
  25. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Yep :lol:

    He is basically as crap as I always said he was, but like I said in a couple of other posts, I'm no longer a hater.

    His fighting spirit has won me over, even though he is just a farmer. You can't help but admire heart and determination. He's crap, basic, and slow, but he doesn't give up, and that's the only reason he beat Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell.
     
  26. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    I can't believe 16 people here thought Dirrell won the fight.

    WTF? :lol:

    That was a disgusting, disgraceful performance, he should have only been given 1 or 2 rounds (the championship rounds) where he stopped running, and actually started fighting (what he was paid to do).

    It was the biggest bitch performance since Junior "The Shitter" Witter against Judah.
     
  27. Tam Tam

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    I agree with you Mex. Completely actually.

    My only issue is that when I looked at my scorecard at the end of the fight, Dirrell had more points than Froch.

    That fight was terrible and took away from the tourney after a fantastic opening fight.
     
  28. Xplosive

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    Hopefully Ward wont run from Kess, but it might be Ward's only chance to win.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree and I agree with your above comments on liking Froch. He is awful, truly awful, but I thought his post fight explaination was classic. Anyone that thinks Dirrell deserved the nod is frankly an idiot. He should have been disqualified. It is was a non performance from a guy who should never be allowed to fight on tv again.Watching Dirrell "fight" was like watching a 7 year old play baseball for the first time. They cringe from the fear of the baseball hitting them. Rarely, do you see a boxer scared of getting hit. Direll is a coward and any of us could have put up as brave an effort. Would I last 12 with Carl Froch, fuck no. I mean this that any average man with an ego would have put up more effort. I will never watch Direll again.
     
  30. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    As I've said elsewhere, I simply can't understand how Dirrell could have been racking up the rounds that people, everywhere I've looked today, have been giving him.

    Rounds eleven and tweleve he can have clearly. At that point he stopped running and started making Froch miss AND making him pay with good counters.

    But the rest of the rounds? Okay, he made Froch miss a LOT but he threw almost nothing in return. When Froch tried to engage, he fell over, clinched, circled or complained to the ref. That isn't 'ring generalship' or 'defensive brilliance'. That's just running.

    How hard is it for any boxer to do what Dirrell did last night. He just ran away. If you'd paid me £££thousands, I'd have happily gotten into that ring and skipped around the ropes, backpeddling out of range for minute after minute. I reckon I'd make Froch miss a fair bit too, but that doesn't mean I'd expect to win any rounds. Of course I wouldn't.

    MTF
     

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