Why are there so few one-punch KO artists? If any...

Is it because of the size of the gloves nowadays? or the padding? Or the game has changed so not many people sits on their punches anymore?

 

REED HONESTLY Thinks it's the Gloves...

These Days, 154 Lb'ders & ABOVE Wear 10oz Gloves, as Opposed to the 8oz Gloves they USED to Wear...As Recent as the Late 70's-Early 80's, the Gloves were Significantly LESS PADDED than they R Today....



REED:mj:

 

I don't think there are less one punch knockouts than earlier.

 

in terms world championship caliber fights? there are less one punch KOs and less one punch KO artists. its not a question of thinking

 

Also a question of attitude. Wladimir used to try and KO everyone with one shot, not any more. Same with Lewis, a guy who could do it, and only did it/tried to do it when he really really seemed forced to, a la Rahman, Klitschko. Bigger gloves, conservative attitudes = fewer 1 punch stoppages, I guess.

 

i keep track of one punch ko's, but I don't go back far enough to provide any comparative stats, unfortunately.

I'm not sure you are correct, though. I think we'd be better off starting a thread, defining 'world championship caliber fights', and throwing out examples with dates and see what we come up with.

I could provide a lot of examples for the last 6 years or so, but not sure what % would qualify.

 

Holding. Creep-fighting. Clock-watching. Cowardice. Some guys build their whole style around not getting KO'd.

 

Time/distance, accuate shots all come into play. Alot of guys those days are missing one or a few. Fighters just aren't on their craft as they were in 80's.

 

i think we should. We'll see if I am mistaken, i do not believe that I am.

And I would say any WBA/WBC/WBO/IBF fight counts

btw mikE have you been keeping track of the unification head-to-head scores? i may need to revive that thread also in order to update it

 

Do you know when they officially switched glove sizes?

 

the timeframe i am thinking of is kind of by decade. i think there were more one punch KO's and one punch KO artists in each of the 70's, 80's & 90's decades vs. the 00's

 

Holding. Plain and simple.

 

One fairly simple boxrec way would just to compare ko vs decisions in title fights. Not really the point of 'one-punch' ko artists, but it's easier to do.

You have fights that turned on single punches...freitas/barrios, castro/jackson that technically weren't one-punch ko's, but are more like one-punch ko's than something like cotto/foreman that pretty much was a one-punch ko in a technical sense.

I haven't kept up the uni scores. It is time to update it, i agree.

 

I like this answer the best.

 

When fighters are most vulnerable to one-punch KO's is when they're tired. So, are fighters these days not as tired? May be. And possible reasons they're not as tired:

1. No 15 round fights
2. Better training
3. Holding/Spurt fighting

 

OK mikE here is a start - its real tough to do the one-punch KO's so i just did KO's vs. non-KOs (decisions, tech dec's, & DQ's).

I only did 90's vs. 00's and I started with Heavyweight, as it is the easiest for me to remember so navigating boxrec was pretty easy (as i remember who won the vacant titles after someone got stripped etc)

This counts all FOUR major belts (obviously unification fights are not double-counted)

1990s: 54 title fights; 33 KOs = 61.11%
2000s: 66 title fights; 34 KOs = 51.52%

I wondered if it had dropped within the decade so to break down the 2000's:

2000-2004: 31 title fights; 16 KOs = 51.61%
2005-2009: 35 title fights; 18 KOs = 51.43%

looks like there was a relatively significant drop in knockouts in the heavweight division title fights from the 90's to the 00's

 

More padded gloves, and more focus on defence. Less dudes walking around the ring with their chin stuck way up in the air.

 

Apparently, not enough are taking the PED which makes you punch harder.

 

Excellent work. I would have guessed that a decade of the Klitschkos would have won it for the 00's, hell, even their losses were ko's.

 

Its all offset by the WBA clusterfuck of Holyfield-Ruiz-Valuez-Chagaev in the 2000's, which all went the distance and were all pretty much awful fights btw. Chris Byrd's IBF reign didn't help either.

interestingly if you throw out the first 8 WBA title fights in 2000 that involved that piece of shit Ruiz:

2000s: 58 title fights; 34 KOs = 58.62% KO rate vs. 61.11% in the 90's

2000-2004: 23 title fights; 16 KOs = 69.57% KO rate vs. the previously mentioned 51.43% KO rate for the last 5 years of the decade

more fuel to the fire that john ruiz helped to ruin this sport

i am doing 90's vs. 00's Welterweight title fights next

 

title fights only

 

I will only bump this up once - for anyone interested

KO percentages (KO % that happened over under 13 rounds in parenthesis):
Heavyweight
70's: 62.96% (55.56%)
80's: 65.22% (58.70%)
90's: 61.11%
00's: 51.52%

Light Heavy:
70's: 56.41% (43.59%)
80's: 85.48% (82.26%)
90's: 41.98%
00's: 39.13%

Middleweight:
70's: 56.00% (48.00%)
80's: 64.52% (64.52%)
90's: 59.52%
00's: 48.21%

Welterweight:
70's: 69.23% (58.97%)
80's: 72.55% (68.63%)
90's: 48.24%
00's: 50.72%

Lightweight
70's: 71.79% (53.85%)
80's: 51.79% (41.07%)
90's: 43.82%
00's: 43.48%

Featherweight
70's: 69.39% (59.18%)
80's: 56.72% (47.76%)
90's: 48.60%
00's: 41.18%

I included WBA/WBC/WBO/IBF fights inlcuding the WBA "Super" champ and "Regular" championship matches, altho super champ and unification fights are not double counted, and also included interim title fights (probably missed a couple of those)

Seems that no matter how you slice it, knockouts are down. It appears that the 15 round distance made a difference in the 70's, but for the most part KO's in the 00's are down from the 80's and 90's no matter what the distance of title fights.

on a sidenote check out the numbers in the light heavyweight 1980's decade! 62 title fights and only 9 went the distance

 

More like the art of defense his evolved and came a long way. Had movement,body angles, game plan etc.:judah: