Why is Manny facing Margarito next?

The last I heard before they announced Pac/Marg was that Manny was in talks with Cotto as well about a rematch. I suppose you could come up with a lot of reasons Pac ultimately chose Margarito, although money probably wouldn't be one of them. I think a Pac/Cotto rematch in NY or PR does better numbers than Pac/Marg in Mexico.

It may be that Pac sees Marg as a bigger challenge at this point, although without "special" hand wraps I am not sure that is even true right now. Especially if Cotto was allowed to be 147 in the rematch.

And then again there is this:
http://www.vocero.com/deportes-noticias/boxeo/9363-rey-colon-el-vocero.html

According to this, Cotto was indeed being considered as Manny's next opponent for Nov. 13th, but the difference between him and Margarito was that Cotto was asking for Mayweather-style drug testing. I guess that made it an easy call for Manny. Honestly - I think at this point Pac is simply fighting anyone and everyone he can that won't ask for better drug testing. So we are now down to fighting despicable glove-loading cheaters, since after all, they sure as fuck won't ask for anything will they?

And for everyone who insisted that Floyd's bizarre behavior now vindicates Manny and makes the whole "drug-testing" thing simply another Mayweather ploy.... do you think this was a ploy by Cotto, too? That he is afraid to fight Pac, too? Oh wait.... he already fought Pac.

 

Why's he fighting Margarito? If we start without the premise that Pacquiao is on PEDs (something you didn't do), it's pretty easy:

1. Pacquiao/Cotto wasn't exactly a close fight; it's pretty silly for anyone to ask the question, "why isn't Pacquiao rematching Cotto?"

2. Margarito is promoted by Top Rank, just like Pacquiao

3. Margarito, like Cotto, is another guy PBF has basically proven himself to be afraid of fighting

4. Margarito is clearly not a dangerous opponent without his wraps

5. Margarito, in Mexico, apparently has fans

 

Maybe he wanted to avoid a "Why Is Manny rematching Cotto?" (somebody he already beat, he must be scared of the much bigger guy, Margarito), thread being created.

 

This is bad matchmaking that's going to bite Pacquiao in the ass.I mean where's Roach? I would think he would look out for his fighters best interest.

 

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Why do you think Mosley was able to easily beat Margarito? Ecve knock him out? Seriously? How do you reconcile that in your mind with the fact Cotto lost to Magarito, and backed up the entire fight?

 

:bears::bears:

 

Because Floyd is a fucking vagina

 

Margarito poses a serious threat, here. I think Pacquiao is at more risk than some are predicting.

 

What?

 

Exactly.

 

Pacquiao's a great fighter but there's a reason why there are weight class.Margarito will probly be 170 lbs when the bell rings.

 

I think you're underestimating Manny's apparent secret to immortality,..his diet of bananas, and his frequent visits to church, so to speak.

 

This.

What a load of old bollocks this thread is. Pacquiao is fighting an available fighter, who he hasn't already beaten (Cotto) because Plan-A ran like a petrified cunt with his tail between his legs once all this drug test bullshit was negated by Manny stating 'I'll take the tests exactly as you asked".

Let me repeat this for the few still clinging to this horseshit:

Pacquiao ceded to ALL of the drug-testing demands in an effort to getting the Mayweather fight on. Mayweather then ran away.

Yet we STILL have a few cynical, bitter posters knocking about, now throwing around garbage about how he now won't fight Cotto because of his demands for a drug test. :notallthere: They fought a few months ago and it turned into a massacre. Why the hell would anyone want to see a repeat of that fight?

Complain about Margarito getting a payday if you like or complain about the morality of letting him anywhere near title fights if you wish and I'd agree wholeheartedly myself. But to somehow claim that fighting the cheating bastard is a way of 'ducking' Cotto or has anything whatsoever to PED's is absolute preposterous nonsense.

MTF

 

:bears: Well said Toonado

 

Please stop lying

 

Don't talk balls. There isn't a single, sensible media outlet who says anything else. Here is one of the more recent examples:

"The only detail to be decided in the match between Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito is the location.

It won't be a concern for Pacquiao. Just tell him where and when and he will turn up. He doesn't even need to know who he is fighting, because he will take on all-comers.

That's why people love him and why some, including me, get so frustrated with Floyd Mayweather Jnr.

Everybody knows they will fight. And they also know that it is they who should be squaring up on November 13, not the Pacman and Margarito.

We may have to wait another 12 months for the richest fight in history, by which time Pacquiao will be one fight and one year older.

That might not seem much. It might not mean much. But then again, it could be all the difference in the world.

That calculation takes you right into the thinking and attitude of Mayweather, who will do everything within his power to ensure that if there is an advantage to be had, he gets it.

All that bluster about blood tests that forced the cancellation of the March date was set aside by Pacquaio agreeing to Mayweather's testing demands for the proposed November date.

What do we get from Mayweather? Prevarication and obfuscation, smoke and mirrors, contradicting messages designed to confuse..."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/columnists/mcguigan/

Bear in mind, by the way, the McGuigan is ordinarily a hardcore Mayweather butt-licker...

Anyway, I'm not going to waste my precious time reproducing here report after report which makes the same point, because you, I and everyone else knows what has happened here. For you to try and say anything else makes YOU the liar.

MTF

 

Pacquiao never acquiesced to the same type of Olympic style blood tests right up to the fight like Mosely did...end of story. You can cut and paste articles all you want but everyone knows the truth. Again, your opinion is valid like everyone else's on this site but please don't lie to try to get your point across....Thanks

 

Mayweather wasn't asking for Olympic drug-testing. He dropped that BS a long time ago. This is common knowledge. His demands, at the time the first set of negotiations broke down were for fourteen days. That is what he and everyone else told the world he was willing to do to save the fight. It is also one of the reasons why people like Kauki, who found himself in the unpalatible position of siding with Floyd for once, dismissed him as full of shit about 'cleaning up the sport'.

But fourteen days was what he asked for and it was what he got. Then he ran away.

So far as anyone outside the negotiations knows, these are the facts as accepted by absolutely any credible source whatsoever. Except you, apparently...

MTF

 

Bob Arum

 

Manny is giving a confirmed, registered cheat a career-best payday, and I personally blame it on one of two things:

1. Vitali Klitschko

2. Wladimir Klitschko.

 

Where was the outrage when Mosley got paid against Mayweather?

 

14 days was on the table and it was Pac who rejected it and decided to fight the fearsome Clottey instead. The 14 day deal is now off the table so of course Pac will now accept it ...That's the truth, what you are posting are lies. Thank you

 

Not a single person in the world except you believes that Mayweather entered the second series of 'negotiations' intent on his original demands; demands that he himself rejected after a few days once they had the desired effect of smearing his fellow professional in the eyes of people like you.

Mayweather offered a 14 day cut-off date. That has been accepted. Now Mayweather has decided he doesn't fancy doing any boxing right now.

That is the truth. Your version of the truth is nothing of the sort.

MTF

 

I agree with Irish's point, & I'm disappointed to see a low-life like Margarito supported in this way.

However, you have a very valid point. Quiet, unassuming, well-liked & thought to be a decent individual --- as well as a long, established record as a world-beater have all served to wash away the shame which should, by rights, see Mosley treated the same way Margarito is. It will never happen, but Mosley is just as bad.

 

yeah taking performance enhancers is as bad as putting cement in your gloves :notallthere:

 

It's a filthy, dog act, which no one takes as seriously as they should. Don't under-estimate the serious nature of what Mosley did. Because it is not tangible, it's seen by a lot of people as somehow lesser. Mosley's case is not lesser at all. The fact Margarito's glove-loading is more dangerous is not the issue. The issue is both enhanced themselves with zero regard for the safety of their fellow man. They both stepped into an area devoid of decency, & risked the lives of fighters above what is already acceptable in Boxing.

That, & as I said, people like Mosley. That counts for a lot, whether people admit to it or not.

 

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Actually, that IS the Issue...


REED:kidcool:

 

If I tried to kill a man with a knife, would you consider it less sinister than trying to end his life with a gun?

 

I think you should consider ending your life