Why is there no 24/7 for Cotto-Judah

24/7 was a great show that got mainstream fans interested in the De la Hoya-Mayweather bout.

So why havn't HBO used the momentum from the De la Hoya-Mayweather PPV for this PPV. :dunno:

 

I've seen commercials for the countdown to Judah-Cotto, but haven't seen the show

 

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You do know the difference between a countdown show and 24/7 right :dunno:

 

Yes, and I've seen neither.

Besides, would you REALLY want to see a 24/7 of Judah? I wouldn't.

HBO spent a shitload of money promoting Oscar-PBF. They needed to do so to cover the guarantees both guys received. There's no need to do that with a fight like Cotto-Judah.

 

Because HBO is stupid...and only overhype boring fights...DLH vs. Hopkins...Tyson vs Lewis...etc.

They should've throw a few more million into advertisement..even the damn commercial for the fight looks cheap.

 

the fight isn't expected to be a borefest, so they figured they don't need to hype it like that...

 

Why the fuck would they throw money @ this fight?

Mayweather v Mayweather made HBO MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLIONS because it was going to sell and sell massive. Hence it got the type of coverage that no fight ever has from them.

Cotto v Judah? You guys crack me up.

 

If it aint broke don't fix it. 24/7 helped the fight break the record for PPV buys and helped promote the sport of boxing to mainstream fans. The only thing that DiBella got right is that boxing is doing this to itself.

 

Yeah boxing is doing it to itself, but you completely disregarded the point I made about this fight vs THE fight. This ain't much to crow about. The people who will buy this fight, are already buying it. Spending millions of dollars to possibly reach a hundred thousand more ain't worth the risk, or the airplay.

Cotto and Judah are NOT stars. They're profesisonal boxers with a bit of a following. Cotto is popular in regional area's, Judah in NY. Oscar and Mayweather are known globally and 24/7 aired in a tonne of countries, due to the international nature of the fight.

This one ain't for shit.

 

Think about this logically...

HBO would spend more on producing the series than the fight would make.

 

:notallthere: Well they don't have much to work with do they?, Cotto is taking on a typical Puerto Rican day parader, reminiscent of Pauli Malignaggi last year, and they fear people may latch on to their scam and render thier investment obsolete. Arum is setting an annual trend, and HBO are reluctant to be apart of it now, even moreso considering this particular opponent hasn't won a fight in 24 months, and was on the wrong end of 2006's 'upset of the year' which means in straight terms 'a fighter we overrated got arse-raped by his own handpicked opponent'. Arum has dug up this sacrificial lamb that has been rotting in the dirt for over 2 years. You can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd my son, the same way this fight IS, WHAT IT IS, embarrasing, and there's no escaping it. HBO have wisely chosen not to further degrade themselves by contributing to this disgusting facade, not while they can still hear the angry screams in the wilderness left by Fraud - De La Hoya.:nono:

 

The countdown show airs June 2.

HBO isn't going to do a 24/7 show for every PPV because not every PPV justifies spending that kind of money on advertising. Yes, it takes money to make money, but the 24/7 show for Floyd/Oscar was the difference between the fight threatening the non-HVY PPV record and breaking the all-time PPV record. Meaning, even if it did 500,000 less buys, HBO still wouldn't have lost money, and the series pays for itself.

You don't spend $10 million on a $5 million fight.

 

Did you read what I said BitchAss Plagarizer???

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why would I read your posts?

 

A 24/7 is not needed for this fight. But one thing I think they should have done was at least aired the countdown special in the slot behind Entourage. I think putting 24/7 in that slot pulled in a lot of viewers who became interested in the fight after seeing the series.

 

A fight like this would've been perfect as the top undercard fight for Floyd\Oscar. They could've introduced Cotto to a whole new legion of fans, and an impressive KO over Judah could've catapulted Cotto into stardom.

But boxing has forgotten how to make stars.

TFK

 

It's not that, the bigger issue is that HBO basically priced out the rest of the market. When they started paying fighters 10x what they're worth in order to lock 'em up, the rest of the industry lost sense of their true market value.

That's a big reason why boxing will most likely never again appear on network TV, at least not quality boxing.

You keep taking the simplistic viewpoint, but the fact is that a $5 million fight is not going to land as a co-feature on any card. Not unless they can guarantee to bring in AT LEAST another $5 million in revenue.

 

you're nice...actually the viewpoint is mindless.

 

For material for your next article.

Just wait until I post "exclusive" information on Stiffvian Harris!

 

btw: don't pay muzse any mind...the brother usually has a titty attack whenever someone posts similar comments after he does. having a similar opinion is unacceptable unless you give muzse full credit for posting the opinion first...::

 

Yeah, God forbid boxing create new stars.

TFK

 

Cotto\Judah may not bring in another $5 million worth of PPV buys immediately, but if Cotto was exposed to the 2+ Million fans that bought Oscar\Floyd, looked good, and was hyped accordingly, their $5 million dollar investment would pay off time and time again in future PPV's.

But I agree with your point on overinflated paydays, and I've brought up that point many times in the MMA\Boxing debates. If boxing is gonna get it's house in order, it needs to fix it's payday problems.

Because of the inflated paydays, we get too many PPV's, overpriced PPV's, and crappy undercards.

TFK

 

Castillo/Hatton have their own web-site.

 

The problem is HBO in this case. Cotto vs Judah is a good fight, but it would have never been a main event on a Don King card 10-20 years ago. We all can bash Don King but he was masterful in putting rising stars in great situations to push them into future stardom. Tito really comes to mind. He and Ricardo Lopez were on numerous big ppv undercards which put them on show to the casual fans who then bought Tito PPV's later. Cotto would/could be that fighter, but the casual fan isn't paying for his PPV when they haven't really even been introduced to him.

 

Well, think about this:

Among major sports, the NFL is probably the only sport left that hasn't seen a dramatic dropoff in ratings.

Why is that? Because it's the only sport left that is REGULARLY on network TV.

Every other sport is funded by major cable/free network packages. Even though NBA is sparingly shown on ABC, it still has ABC's money to play with (Actually, Disney, but same difference). All of the major sports benefit from getting to play with house money, be it from Viacom, Fox, Disney, Time Warner or what have you.

Boxing is forced to run on a fraction of the budget other sports are afforded. But guess what? It still finds ways to generate money.

When the NFL is put in the same position, and can pull in the same revenue when forced to go the PPV route, then I'll be convinced that boxing is dead. But with NBA and NHL claiming declining ratings/revenue each year, is it merely a coincidence that the decline began with each being shown less and less on free networks?

 

While this has some element of truth in it, I'm still waiting for official credit for giving Phonetap his "personna."

Without me, you are nothing!

"Who put this thing together? Me that's who!!!"

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tfk-yes what a shame it is that boxers are making money...i would much prefer one promoter have a monopoly and make all of the money.

 

What, you see something wrong with a company making 40 million in revenue in 1 PPV and them paying all the fighters combined less than 2 million dollars? Yeah I see something wrong with it to actually. ::

 

But a select few boxers are the ones making all the money. It's not like every fighter is making millions. Only the elite.

And because those elite fighters are making too much money, boxing as a whole is suffering. Too many PPV's, overpriced PPV's, fights not made because of money, lousy undercards, etc.

And it's not just the fighters, the promotors are greedy, there's the BS sanctioning fees, etc.

In the end, the fans lose.

TFK