Wilfred Benitez vs. Donald Curry @ 147

Who wins?

 

I think I'd go with Curry on points, scoring a couple of knockdowns along the way. I always thought he would have been vulnerable to Donald's left hook and speedy style. Slick as he may have been, when Benitez got hit, he tended to get hit flush and he could be hurt.

I think his trips to the canvas are what lose him this fight.

 

Hate to admit it being as that I'm a big Benitez fan, but I agree. A prime Curry had the style to have beaten Wilfred. At 147 that is.

At 154, I'd favor Benitez.

 

This is not even close. Benitez was one of the greatest welterweights of all-time, not to mention the youngest to win a title at that weight range. A prime Benitez stops Curry or makes him quit, he certainly taxes that ass worse than Lloyd did. B)

 

3rd youngest or so at welterweight, actually.

 

Benitez won the title barely reaching 17.

Who were the 2 younger ones? I'm not saying you're wrong even though you confused a big black guy for a big white guy, but I can't think off the top of my head anyone younger than Benitez, just want to know. B)

 

Well, no he wasn't barely 17 when he won the welterweight title. So you should check your records there.

Pipino Cuevas was the youngest welterweight champ in history.

 

Benitez's birthday was September 12, 1958, he won the title against Cervantes on March 6, 1976.

1976 - 1958 = 18, but Benitez had not had his 18th Birthday that year, in fact he was more than 6 months away from it, hence he was closer to 17 than 18 when he won the title against Cervantes.

Do they teach basic mathematics where you live? Just curious. B)

p.s - I notice you changed your post, but luckily I quoted it before then. B)

 

You do understand that Cervantes wasn't the welterweight champion of the world, right? He beat Palomino for that. Go find your fingers and add up his age for that one, slim.

Start talking junk when you're actually right for once.

 

That makes two edits on your own post. Keep going, son.

 

B) I guess they don't teach basic substraction in Australian schools.

Cuevas was born Friday, December 27, 1957.
He beat Espada on Saturday, July 17, 1976.

It is 6778 days from the start date to the end date, end date included

Or 18 years, 6 months, 21 days including the end date

Benitez was born Friday, September 12, 1958
He knocked out Cervantes Saturday, March 6, 1976

It is 6386 days from the start date to the end date, end date included

Or 17 years, 5 months, 24 days including the end date.

As far as I know, 6386 < 6778 days. So, you should either:

A) Check your records or...
B) Go back to grade school to learn up on basic substraction and how to read a calender.

Class dismissed. B)

 

Wow, such anger.

In my original post I said "not to mention the youngest to win a title at that weight range."

I never said Benitez was "The Champion", I just said he was the youngest to win a title at that weight range.

Don't get your panties in a bunch sweety. I guess reading comprehension, and basic mathematics weren't part of your education. No biggy. :2:

B)

 

Great math, genius. Again, its a shame Cervantes wasn't the welterweight champion of the world. Oh and look, you're actually quoted this time....so your edits will look quite stupid now, huh?

Now, fuck off.

Gold.

I don't even need to tell you that Benitez didn't KO Cervantes and instead stunk out the arena in possibly the worst 140 pound title fight of all-time. I'm sure you knew that and were simply too embroiled in your own mathematical superiority to realise that in boxing; thats not quite the same thing.

You want to talk maths and feel super smart? Go find a math board. If you want to talk boxing and look like an idiot? Stay here.

We're done.

 

I don't understand your point here. Didn't Cuevas pick up his belt from Espada who in turn picked up a vacant title off Clyde Gray?

Are you really trying to claim Espada is more legit than Cervantes? :rollllling:

Anyway that's not the point, Benitez was younger than Pipino. Next posted to be schooled? :2:

 

Benitez won the World Jr. Weterweight Championship when he was 17 years and 3 months. He won the World Welterweight Championship when he was 20 years and 5 months. Ted "Kid" Lewis was 19 years and 10 months when he won the World Welterweight Championship. The Dixie Kid was 20 years and 4 months when he won the World Welterweight Championship. If we're going to include alphabet titles, Pipino Cuevas was 18 years and 7 months (or 16 years and 7 months, if you believe that version of his birth). Either way, he was younger than Benitez was when he won the World Welterweight Championship.

(I boldfaced the titles, because I know you have trouble telling the difference between 140 and 147.)

 

Oh, and Ted "Kid" Lewis was 19 years and 10 months when he won the World Welterweight Championship.

 

I just bunched 140-147 in the same weight class, calm down buddy. Even when Ring Magazine did their Welterweight Top 100, they bunched 140 and 147, read my post again. You even bunched 140 and 147 in your "All-time" Welterweight list, so please, relax.

Hey I won't argue over whether Cervantes was more or less legit than Espadas, that's a debate that could go on for millenia, but the fact is Cuevas took the title from Espada who in turn picked up a vacant title off Clyde Gray.

At least Cervantes was considered "the recognized" champ at the time with 10 defenses (one against Esteban De Jesus). That's not just math, it's also a fact. I saw the fight and I thought Benitez won convincingly with clever counter punching, maybe it's just me, but when you land almost 2-1 punches over a fighter, you're probably going to win.

I notice you resorted to using curse words, and vulgar language when you noticed you were wrong. Calm down sweetheart, you're not the first to be wrong about something in boxing. Relax and smell the flowers, enjoy the fresh air. B):dancingguy:

 

Cervantes was never the World Welterweight Champion, you moron.

 

Umm, read my post again.

I said

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I bunched 140-147 in the same weight class like many mags do for all-time list (Ring, Boxing Encyclopedia). I never said anything about Benitez's accomplishments purely at 147. You're arguing about something totally different.

Besides, aren't you still busy trying to distinguish between Bert Cooper and Henry Cooper? :rollllling: B)

 

:jester:

 

Simple spelling error. :nixweiss: B)

 

:jester: :jester: Yeah, sure thats what it was. The subtle addition of the word "range" all of a sudden makes you look like you weren't an idiot, but it just makes you look like you worry too much about this stuff.

At least we all know now that when anyone replies to you, they have to make sure they quote you, otherwise you'll just go back and edit out all your posts, so you don't embarrass yourself.

Talk about exposing yourself...sheesh.

 

Hey I'm not the one following people into other threads just to get a "slash" at them. If you're really so right and believe in your claims, why do you have to be so angry and follow me from thread to thread like a lost lil' pup?

It's just boxing discussion right?

:nixweiss:

You're welcome to quote me anytime you want, I try to please my fans. btw, I thought you were "done" with this thread (there's a quotation for you).

:neener: B)

 

:jester:

 

Really? Rufio is the one who ducked away from a high school problem in mathematics and then went to attack me in an MMA thread. But the fact that you weren't involved in either debate but seem so knowledgeble about what happened seems to indicate you've been following me around. Kind of creepy actually. B)

...and if you two are so right why did you two have to follow me into a different forum to dish out smacktalk? Are those the actions of two people who believe they're right? Me thinks not.

Says the guy who talks about "internet boxing forum rep", claims he can't afford $50 worth of PPV, and then followed someone into a different forum to try and take a stab. (hilarious on all counts)

Simple spelling error, anyone can read the thread and follow it, and see that you're very angry for being proven wrong (they can also see that you were indeed guilty of editing, I quoted immediately, yet none of my "errornous quotes" were saved? Interesting!) Didn't your own Welterweight list include 140-147? Doesn't Rings? B)

Take some time to get off the keyboard and relax. You've got way too much pent up anger. :nixweiss: :neener:

 

Sums up your life. :jester:

 

Looks like Alabama Man got owned again. Last I heard, you didn't even want to think about answering the two problems I asked. You suck at everything, and now everyone knows.

 

True dat. B)

 

All this fuss over...what???? Benitez was the youngest Jr. Weltereight champ and Cuevas was the youngest Welterweight champ. Even if Cuevas' claim was not undisputed...Benitez had absolutely NO claim to the Welterweight crown until he beat Palomino.

I don't understand why there are so many posts devoted to discussing this. Oh, wait...I forgot where I am. :jester: