Will David make Haye in Nuremberg?

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  1. Buddy Rydell

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    Just saw this now.

    For a fight with as little importance or interest around it, I think you wasted about 5,000 words there, Baldy.
     
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    Fuck off...

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    I'm working like a bitch right now, so I really, REALLY am stretched at the moment.

    Anyway, I offered to waste loads of words at your home, but nothing came of...

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    Which is because all anyone offered to do was write...nothing else. Everyone wants to get something out of it and get their name on something...but not a soul offered to help give us a medium for such an arrangement.
     
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    You asked if I would write- I offered to write. Take your annoyance out against someone who fucked you over...

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  11. Double L

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    Did anyone actually watch this fight? If so, was it a fair decision? I read that it was controversial.
     
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    Both won about four rounds and there were four rounds that neither deserved, so the score depends on flipping a coin. Valuev walked forwards and hit air, Haye ran like Usain Bolt with Andre Dirrel's mindset and landed one clean punch a round. Matter of taste which you dislike less.
     
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    Does anyone know how much Valuev and Haye made for this fight?
     
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    If you count earnings per landed punches, this was the richest fight in the history
     
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    :nono:Give me the exact numbers, or I'll start celebrating the 70-th anniversary of Finnish invastion of USSR right now, as opposed to November 30-th.
     
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    Ok, Ugo, I'll make you a deal.
    You research the purse for both fighters, and I'll post a picture of the ogre, when he was 10. Here's my side of the bargain, and you come up with yours.
    [​IMG]
     
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    LOL at little interest...


    Looks like Haye came close to Hatton-Mayweather numbers with the british PPV Sales being around 800k everyone earning him around 8 bucks each plus some change for the purse to answer Dymis question.
     
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    Indeed

    Haye-Valuev is at WORST the third highest PPV, in terms of sales, in UK boxing history. As you say, 800K is about the mark that people are talking about.

    As I've said before, boxing in the UK is more popular at present than at any time since the early 1990's.

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    Do you think a lot of fans were turned off from the sport considering the action?
     
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    I'll chip in here....

    From what i've seen/heard, i don't think so.

    Boxing is a very patriotic thing over here. We support Hatton and now Haye (whose star has risen staggeringly over a matter of weeks) like we support our football team. So the vast majority of people tuned in on saturday, were more concerned with Haye simply winning, rather than the quality of the fight.

    I'd also contest, that for anyone rooting for Haye in this fight, it wasn't boring....i personally found it tense and engrossing. At no point was i comfortable in my seat because i knew that even a glancing blow could troube Haye.

    And also, a lot of the casual fans realise that this giant wasn't gonna be beaten in a toe-to-toe war....they understand that special tactics had to be applied for Haye to pull this one off. Something some hardcore fans are struggling to comprehend.
     
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    This seems to be the case with most English sports (it is the only reason English football has fans:crafty:).
     
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    I have to echo my good man AdamW here...

    Oddly enough, everyone I've spoken to thought the fight boring but no-one seems down on the sport as a result. Personally, I was surprised Haye got the decision, because I expected his negativity to lose him the decision, but it seems that, in the UK, I'm in the minority. Haye has literally been front page news all week as a result of his win. Perhaps this is a result of the fact that very few UK Newspapers and pundits picked him to win, so that despite the odds, Haye was considered a dog in many, many people's eyes.

    The HW championship of the World still carries a lot of mustard in casual fan's eyes. Of course, you, I and everyone else here knows that Haye is no kind of HW champ, because you have to beat a Klit to do that, but millions of people here are buying the title and subsequently buying into Haye.

    Is that a bad thing? From a boxing perspective, I suppose it is, because Haye has a long way to go before he is a real, legitimate HW champ. But in terms of bringing boxing right back to the forefront of people's minds, Saturday was a good, good night here. As AdamW said, there are a lot of patriotic folk here, and as far as they are concerned, Haye is the champ.

    Let me put it this way: when Haye fights Ruiz he will sell out the O2 Arena (20,000) and sell near a million PPV's here, even though we all know that that fight, albeit a mandatory, means little in terms of actual boxing credibility.

    That can only be a good result, IMHO.

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