Winky Wright vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ 154

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  1. Dog Jones

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    Who gets it?
     
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    The size difference would be quite something. Something enough to make it close. Floyd would still find a way to win since he's allot better.
     
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    The thing is....

    Winky's size wouldn't matter that much..simply because he's neither:


    • Tall
    • Powerful

    As such...it'll be down to styles and not size. Wright's style would give FLoyd fits..but Floyd would still be the more elusive and mobile fighter and so I have to say he gets the decision.
     
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    Mayweather jr wouldn't land shit against wright
     
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    He'd land less than Jermaine Taylor, Fernando Vargas and old man hopkins did?
     
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    A lot less. Nice context, canuck. Only one of the bouts you mentioned took place@super welter
     
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    Winky wins decision. Winky is brave. He throws punches. Has a good chin. Is in good shape. Isn't strung out from steroid withdrawal.
     
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    I disagree. In fact i think we've disagreed on this exact point regarding other fights. A size advantage is always just that, an advantage, in my book.

    That weird point Foreman always makes about 'broad shoulders' is true, IMO - just the size of a guys frame can help control the geography of the ring, beyond reach. And size effects chin and punch power most obviously. Floyd will have very little mustard to keep Winky off with while he'll feel every shot he takes and be tired by every clinch and wrestle. All those things will make it difficult for Floyd to get Winky's respect and effect the tactical dynamic big time, in how cautious Winky has to be versus how cautious Floyd has to be in letting their hands go etc.

    I think Floyd is good enough to overcome those things, but they still come into play. If they were the same size I'd be very surprised if Winky won 3 rounds. At 154 I think it's a 7-5 type fight.
     
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    When Pacquiao was a featherweight there was Mythical matchup talk of him moving up and fighting Juan diaz. The general consensus was the "diaz is too big". I countered "Diaz' "size" advantage is meaningless here because he's not a big puncher and neither does he have a height or reach advantage". Now that pacman has moved up and beaten the likes of cotto and Hatton...no one in their right mind would ever pick diaz over pacman and claim "size" would matter.

    Size matters if the bigger fighter can impose that size and/or if he's powerful, taller or rangier. Other than that...it's a useless statistic.
     
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    Maybe Floyd.

    He's not very good at that weight. But he knows how to win.
     
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    If Diaz had been smaller he'd have taken an even worse ass kicking, though. A single advantage is never decisive in itself it interacts with all the other factors that decide the fight. Losing fighters can still have advantages that mitigate their ass kicking, as would be the case with Wright against Floyd.

    But in any case, the fact Pac went on to beat welterweights shows just how much of an exception to normal reality he is. Nobody else in boxing history has ever totally transcended newtonian physics the way he has. Pac's a bizarre statistical outlier to a very strong correlation.
     
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    has Floyd fought at 154?
     
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    Against De La Hoya, but he looked awful.
     
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    Wright by decision.
     
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    yes
     
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    If Wright had any sense of his fair market value, this fight would've happened in 2005.

    The only way I see Winky losing is if Floyd shoeshines all night and steals a highly controversial decision.
     

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