Would you like to see professionals in Olympics?

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  1. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Because of old and ridiculous differences between sanctioning bodies, boxing is the only individual sport that denies its best athletes from participating to the games. That is the only real problem Olympic boxing has. Sure the judges are crooked but so are pro judges. And can you picture the excitement when Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather would step in for 4x2 min fights to challenge the best Cubans and East Europeans. That would save the olympic style boxing from drowning, that's how they would actually get publicity. Now they don't and they don't deserve any either
     
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    I thought it was a pretty universal rule that once you have a pro fight you can no longer fight amateur.
     
  3. BoxFan

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    No, especially how Olympic scoring is now a days anyway, our best guys, probably would get fuckin robbed against a piece of shit amatuer...
    I can't stand the olympics now...haha
     
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    That would be stupid IMO, plus the greedy bastards would never agree to earn nothing for stepping into the ring to earn a lousy gold medal.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It is, and the rule is held up by AIBA (the amateur boxing association). And that very rule is goddamn ridiculous. It is like banning all the track-and-field starts who have ever been in the Golden League
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It matters not if they are afraid to step in or not, the point is that it should be possible. And after that the lousy gold medal would actually become very worthy
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    haha well it sucks, the boxing olmpics are a fuckin joke now, at least this year.
    I watched many fighters (not just the U.s.a.) get robbed to all hell, landing 20 punches in a round and not getting a single fuckin point, and yes I know what the rules are for a point, and its fuckin ridiculous...
     
  9. steve_dave

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    This idea sucks, UGO. No offense. They would have to change everything to make it watchable. Why would I want to see my favourite pro fight in a helmet and big gloves for 8 minutes?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Did you actually watch boxing in these games? I think there were some good fights.

    Also, do you think that under these rules Manny Pacquiao's fights would be boring?

    Third, even if you hate Olympic boxing, that still is NO KIND OF REASON to keep the best boxers away from there
     
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    Well, they wouldn't be as exciting as watching Pacquiao fight real pro's in long championship fights.

    Pros can't fight in amateur fights and that's the way it should be.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    And why is that? Is there an actual reason? Usually people are allowed to participate in whichever sport they like

    Btw if it had been Pacquiao vs. Mayweather in 60kg finals, would you have skipped it?
     
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    Yeah, the amateur ranks are an important place for learning. You would have to change the tournament completely to accommodate the pros.

    I would watch, but it wouldn't mean anything.
     
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    There's NO Incentive for Pro's to Go to the Olympics...

    Cats like Manny Pac & Floyd Make MILLIONS of Dollars Each Fight...Is a Gold Medal HONESTLY Going to INCREASE their Value???...

    Besides that, they'd B Fighting a SIMPLER Fight...FEWER Rounds, SHORTER Rounds, Headgear, Scoring Sytem, etc...U'd have to Completely OVERHAUL Olympic Boxing, if U Wanted to Include Pros...


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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The East Europeans don't see it as that, for them its the actual goal. That's why the US fighters have been whipped lately. Their best talent is banned from the games. Olympic style boxing is a different sport from pro boxing but some could master them bth. Or at least they should have a chance to try it
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think it would since for individual athletes it usually is the biggest prize there is.

    And I don't see why the rules should be changed to give an edge to the pros. Different sport, different rules and open competition to EVERYBODY, just like in any other sport
     
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    As long as you aren't a professional boxer. :nono:
     
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    I think they should have the option of competing but they have to qualify like anyone else. You may have some middle card level fighters make a name for themselves at the very least.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    not only that - if you are a professional athlete at ALL you cannot box in the Olympics. Ken Norton's son, Norton Jr., or Norton the Third (can't remember) was a Linebacker for the 49ers and tried to compete as a boxer in the Olypmics a while back and was denied
     
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    It was Ken Norton, Jr...

    He was 1st a Linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys, Then the 49'ers...& Actually, he Wanted to Compete N the Dallas Golden Gloves, but was Denied...

    REED Only Knows this Cause he LIVES N Dallas & Wrote an Article about it....


    REED:lol:
     
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    HAHA ok then - got some minor details criss-crossed there.

    Listen to what Reed said
     
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    Well, there's NO WAY U Can Convince REED that Floyd (Pre "Retirement") or Manny Could Get Any MENTAL Mileage Out of a Gold Medal...

    Floyd WAS Considered THE Best Fighter N The World, Lb 4 Lb & NOW Manny Is...They ALREADY Garner MILLIONS of Dollars PER Fight...So Again, WHAT INCENTIVE is there for THEM to Pursue a Gold Medal???:dunno:...

    Perhaps N the FUTURE, PRIOR to when these Professional Fighters "Blow Up", it'd B Worth their While, but Certainly Not AFTER the Fact...

    As for your Last Paragraph, the Rules SHOULD B Different...CLEARLY, PRO Boxing is a More DIFFICULT Sport than AMMY Boxing...It's NOT about an "Edge", it's about Not HANDICAPPING the Pro's...

    For Example, Imagine Margarita N a 4 Rounder w/2 Minutes per Round???...He'd Probably NEVER win a Fight Under Ammy Rules...Some Scrub that COULDN'T Carry his Jock would Probably "Beat" Margarita N an Ammy Fight...& even Though REED'll NEVER B a Fan, Dude is CLEARLY an Elite PRO Fighter...

    Ammy Boxing is Almost like a Game of TAG...That TOUCH & GO Shit Shouldn't B Rewarded...REED ISN'T Opposed to Using PRO's N the Olympics, but Again, the RULES would HAVE to B COMPLETELY CHANGED...



    REED:hammert:
     
  24. Mitchell Kane

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    What would be the point of it? Other than dismantling the biggest event amateur boxing.
     
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  25. mikE

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    Exactly.

    Pros shouldn't be in the olympics in any sport, imo, but sports where the pros make tons of money should especially be precluded.

    As far as what it would help? Very little. Who won the golds in tennis? Who cares. Same difference.
     
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    This idea is like pro tennis players competing in the Olympics at badminton.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    And they are allowed to do so if they think they can
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    To find out who is the best boxer in the world with Olympic style rules. The same thing that is the point of Olympics all together.

    Yes, I do think Margarito would be beaten by many in the Olympics under the Olympic rules. Different sport, different rules as it is. What is the problem with that?

    And to mikE: tennis actually got plenty of publicity now that the best were included. Not as much as the biggest tournaments but anyway. Same would go with boxing. And do you seriously think that the best track-and-field guys, swimmers etc should be banned from the Olympics?
     
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    Is that what Olympic soccer does?

    Amateur and professional boxing are two completely different versions of the same sport, and the best way to get it eliminated from the Olympics is to have professionals competing against amateurs.

    Fortunately, it's such a ludicrous idea in so many ways that the chances of it happening are probably about nil.
     
  30. TKO

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    No, I don't like this idea at all. I like the path a boxer follows at the moment. Amateur, try for the gold then turn pro. This is a excellent learning curve.

    Anyway if the Olympics was open to the pros it would diminish the gold as every fighter would not compete - just like the tennis.
     

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