The laugh at Bill Haney thread

How could anyone watch this? It's like listening to toddlers fighting over a toy.

 

Ryan just disclosed that Floyd is the one who instructed him to come in over 3 pounds.

Like I said, a snake. Bill is just a clown, but Floyd is a piece of shit.

 

Mayweather Jr is the strategic genius who saved garcias career

 

It's dangerous for the sport. Floyd is the idol of all these young fighters. This sends the message of: "Fuck trying to make the weight! I'm gonna weigh whatever I want to gain an advantage. That's what Floyd would tell me to do."

 

I really wish someone of authority steps up and just absolutely destroys everything Floyd represents. Someone like the late Marvin Hagler would have been a perfect ambassador for the sport, someone who represents hard work, competitive spirit, discipline, fair play and making it to the top the hard and honest way. Floyd also used to represent those things when he was younger, despite being a loudmouth. But he now follows the line of thinking of a deck stacking, cheating and narcissistic diva. The fucker needs a restraining order to keep him away from anything Boxing related.

 

Roy preaches professionalism and always sticking by the weight rules, but these kids have forgotten who Roy was. They just ride Floyd's cock. Unfortunately, this will now become a trend.

 

The whole weigh in rules need to be revisited aside from guys purposely missing weight.

When haney can come into the ring against prograis at 165lbs, for a super lightweight fight, something is very wrong.

 

I fully agree that rehydration rules need to be altered. Coming in 25 pounds heavier on fight night is ridiculous. But that wasn't my point.

If Ryan knew from the jump that he wasn't gonna make weight, then this fight should have been made at a 143-144 catchweight. If you sign to fight for the title, it's on you to be a professional and make the weight.

Floyd is sending the message to the new generation to fuck professionalism.

 

Floyd is slick. He knows he's not intelligent enough to game really intelligent people. However, he knows he's smart enough to influence really really dumb people like Tank and Ryan.

 

Pretty bad when Floyd Mayweather is the more mature, reasonable one

Bill: I’m still in the streets!

Floyd: I’m not, that’s not something to glorify

 

Exactly, it's one thing to miss weight by half a pound or so, but coming in more than 3 lbs overweight is a clear indication that either he didn't try seriously to make it, or that he knew quite a long time in advance he wasn't gonna make it. In both cases, it's obviously done to gain an advantage and it shouldn't be accepted

 

That's Because Roy Doesn't Put HIMSELF Over the Sport that Made Him Famous, @ the End of the Day...The "Greater Good of BOXING", So to Speak...Roy Realizes There was Boxing BEFORE/AFTER Him...

Floyd, On the Other Hand, COULDN'T Care Less About "Boxing" Proper, Nor Occupy His Mind w/Thoughts on the "Greater Good" of It...Floyd is the Guy That "Makes It" in Life, Then CLOSES the Door Behind Him, Making it Virtually Impossible for Others Like Him to Follow...

Floyd Wants/HAS to Feel Like HE'S the Most Important Person In the Room, Like HE Possesses the Biggest DICK in the Room, at ALL Times....& If/When Floyd CAN'T Have it That Way, He EXITS Said Room...

Truly an Insecure, DETESTABLE Ass Individual and On Some BLACK MAN Shit, REED's Been Bothered by Floyd's Influence on YOUNGER Brothers Since the "Money May" Character Surfaced...



REED

 

Agreed with every word.

 

Indeed. It's one thing to be part of it, make sure their son is staying disciplined, on the right path and not getting taken advantage of.

That's the father's "job". Stay off the microphone and stop playing promoter/PR.

 

what happens if spence weighs in at 150.2 lbs vs crawford, he gets beatdown exactly the same?

 

If Javier Jauregui got the same "scale" Acelino Freitas got in Brazil he may have very well beaten him

 

Castillo vs. Corrales II

 

Now more than ever, teens are CASUALLY into boxing. And of course knowing about somebody like Mayweather makes them appear “knowledgeable” and at the same time the whole “money” image excites them. So anything Floyd does is GOLDEN to them. You see it a lot amongst the social media boxing community. They all say Floyd is the GOAT and that he can’t do anything wrong. Guys like Ryan and Tank whom already have social media presence, now Floyd gives them the “rub” so to say, and you got guys with major followings. And Floyd is these kids “godfather” of boxing.

But Floyd did indeed play a significant role in hurting the sport. Guys sit on their titles now, holding belts hostage, the best don’t wanna fight the best since they already make big bucks fighting no-hopers. Guys are inactive, fights don’t get made, and now apparently not making weight is going to be a thing at the rate we’re going.

Back then this would never fly. No fighter would have been allowed to get away with this before. Now we’re seeing it become routine.

 

That isn't uncommon. You guys act like most fighters only put on a few lbs after the weigh in.

 

No, it's getting worse and worse because weigh-ins are happening earlier and earlier the day before.

The 24-hour weigh-in needs to die. It never will, sadly, but it needs to. We need to go back to the old days of weigh-ins the morning of the fight.

If not, then weigh-ins need to occur the NIGHT before a fight, not the MORNING of the day BEFORE like what's happening now.

10-12 pounds is an acceptable amount of weight to gain by fight time in the 24-hour weigh-in structure. Anything over 15, and guys need to start facing serious fines for every pound over. By time you get 25 pounds of weight gain by fight time, then you should no longer be eligible to win the fight. It should be declared a NC if you win.

Do allllllll that, and you'll stop weight cheats.

But they won't do any of that.

 

I thought one of the sanctioning bodies was doing that at one point. Even doing weigh ins before the actual weigh in to make sure they weren't doing crash weight losses just before the fight.

That was quite a while ago. I guess they gave up on it. Some changes had been made after Gatti-Gamache. Gatti weighed 161 to Gamache's 146 at fight time and damn near killed him. I can't remember the specific changes made.

 

They should do the 2nd (rehydration) weigh in 2 to 4 hours before the fight, max 15 lbs over the limit for welter/ middle with incremental adjustments more or less based on weight class

It would mean most fighters are forced to compete closer their more natural weight class

 

"Yeah, but he lost 3 times. Who cares what he thinks?"








Not me, BTW, love Hagler. Just saying what the Floydbots will say.

 

It's annoying because he was so gifted and undeniably great, but Floyd was absolutely detrimental to boxing. The biggest shame was Castillo not getting the decision in the first fight. Without the 0 it absolutely does not pan out the same way.

 

I still think Castillo won that first fight.

 

Specially if they never stepped in the ring.

 

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REED

 

Floydbots thats cute. I think every generation has their Floyd Mayweather and there will always be an old fart talking about the good ole days. I grew up idolizing Mike tyson but my older friends who watched boxing would argue with me about who would win Ali or Tyson. I always thought Tyson could take Ali prime for prime. But who knows.