2000 Mosley vs 2009 Pacquiao

At 147 both at their bests. Does Pac beat this Mosley?

I say no. I think a prime Mosley caves in Manny face with hard power shots and Pac is not surviving 12 rounds of that.

 

mosley by vicious KO

 

Mosley stops him. Without a speed edge I don't see WTF tiny ass Pac has going for him. Shane would be too strong, with too much firepower, and in his prime Pac's punches wouldn't really deter him.

 

Y'all don't know boxing.

 

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Mosley was a very good fighter, Pacquiao was a great fighter. Different level of fighters here.

 

Historically Pac will definitely go down as greater.

Doesn't change the fact that Mosley would fuck him up head-to-head.

I have very little faith in Pac's chin handling prime Mosley's firepower all night. And unlike the shot timid old man that Pac beat, prime Mosley would be willing to eat Pac's firepower to land. If Shane can handle the firepower a prime DLH was hitting him with, Pac's best punches aren't gonna do shit to him.

Your disrespect of Mosley is absurd at this point. You talk about him as if he was no better than Broner.

 

Peep the two videos I just posted, which are videos of the two guys in the time frame that relates to this thread. Can you honestly tell me that Shane beats Pac based on what you see in those videos?

Shane was always absurdly overrated....but I understood the overrating when he was still undefeated (although I knew even back then he was just a speedy slugger) but since the Forrest fights (and wright to a lesser extent)...everyone should have woken up to the reality that he was rather limited.

 

Pac wouldn't have 12-0 a prime Shane like he did to an old Shane but he would have 9-3 or 8-4. The rounds would have been more competitive of course but Manny is just so much better. Shane's handspeed is almost irrelevant by the way he fights. In the ring Manny would appear much faster and Manny would be throwing 100 punches a round and Shane would be fighting in spurts. Shane wasn't an elusive target or deft counter puncher that could reduce the punch output of a swarming stamina daddy like pacquiao. He'd be horrendously outworked. Shane always needed a sitting target to look good (Oscar was a sitting target in their first fight...because Oscar just wanted to knock him out)....a crazy in an out, sudden explosive flurrier like Pacquiao would have always given him fits.

 

LMAO @ Pac throwing 100 punches a round against a prime Mosley.

He'd be Marquez'd.

You're either hugely overrating Pac's chin and defense, or hugely underrating Mosley's speed and REACH.

For Pac to get off that activity level on a prime Mosley he'd have to take A LOT in return, and I don't think his chin is up for the task.

 

Pac's chin is good...you're putting waaaaay too much stock in the Marquez KO. That's unfair.

Lennox was knocked out COLD by Rahman and knocked out with one punch against McCall...yet he never went down against Tua, Tyson, Klitschko, Morrison, Mercer etc.

Pacman took Cotto's punches all night long and Margaritos. Pac's chin was solid. Aberrations happen in boxing.

 

Pac def wins this

 

Manny's activity would be his undoing here. Mosley would be able to take his power shots but Pac would simply just not hold up under Mosley's power for 12 rounds.

Size difference along with Mosley's hand speed would be too much for Pac to handle. There's a big difference between 28 year old Mosley and 41 year old Mosley.

 

Neither Cotto nor Margarito are snapping punchers. They're both relatively slow handed guys.

Maybe in your fantasy world, Pac could take all of Mosley's power punches with no effect, but that wouldn't happen in reality.

 

Doesn't matter. 41 year old Mosley probably goes the distance with Forrest too and may even win a round....doesn't mean that Forrest wouldn't have beaten prime Shane easily, as we know he actually did. Stylewise Mosley was a limited fighter with a good chin and fast hands. His fast hands were not as important as people make it out to be though since they were not accompanied by a "fast mind" or a good jab to set them up. Pac is so much better than Shane it's not funny.

 

In reality, the only guys that couldn't take Shane's punches were Wise, Diaz, Taylor and Stone. Don't compare Pacquiao with those guys.

 

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot that Pac was the only one to ever stop Margarito...

 

Bottomline is this:

Speedy, wasted "twitchy" energy, spurt fighting Slugging is not beating Pacquiao. No sir.

 

What does it take to beat Manny Pacquiao, Sly?

Moneyonious, the Greek God of all shit paid for?

 

Pac doesn't have the jab to keep Mosley at bay, nor the strength to neutralize him inside. Not does he have the height/length Forrest had. He would fight fire with fire and it would be his undoing against a stronger, faster, and more powerful foe.

 

You must not have gotten the memo, PR.

Shane was a poor man's Andre Berto.

 

Mosley fucks him up. I can't realistically see any other result.

 

Sorry, but most of you only have " book knowledge" of the sport. Mosley only has a punchers chance against Pacquiao and a slim one at that. Pacquiao would beat him up: 41, 30 or whatever.

 

Think about it: Forrest was knocked out by Mayorga....by the same logic being applied here, he should have been knocked out by Shane but even earlier. Shane's only KO over a good opponent was Margarito.

 

Hard to picture Shane losing to a smaller guy that is as hittable as Manny. Not to mention that he brings none of the attributes that troubled Mosley. Manny would fight Shane head on because he knows no other way. He ain't boxing him. And he would find out much to his dismay that Shane ain't Cotto.

 

PR..here's the thing:

1. Manny isn't as hittable as you imply. He's no defensive genius, but he has fast feet and an unpredictable attack and that discourages opponents from hitting him too often. He's rarely marked up after a fight and that's the sign that he's not particularly hittable. Y'all are making him out to be Mickey Ward or something.
2. Manny is a speedy southpaw with fast feet as well as fast hands. he's not a stationary fighter at all and throws far more jabs than Shane does and that means he'll be "boxing" Shane for all intents and purposes. I'm not sure how Shane would deal with a speedy southpaw.

Manny wins this fight fairly easily to be honest with you

 

Hard to tell. I'm going back and forth with this one

 

roach was scared to make the fight after mosley destroyed margarito. said he was just too strong.

 

There was also a time when Manny's camp suggested that they'd never fight Margarito because he was deemed too big.