For Froch to beat Ward, he has to........

If you could come up with the master fight plan for Froch to defeat Ward, what would you take into consideration and work on?

 

Not be Carl Froch.

 

Go all out CHECK that WARD CHIN........don't try to box w/ Ward for one second...and put it in the ref mind that Ward is one dirty headbutting and clinching machine at times....so he would break every clinch immediately..or warn and start taking away point for headbutts...

 

That's a little bit harsh. He could be Carl Froch and win if he say, brought a gun into the ring.

 

One problem... Froch can't punch.

 

Fair.

 

20 Ko's in 29 I say he can punch a bit....

 

Froch has enough power to make you take a step back and think.

 

He has to punch and punch and punch. Properly let his hands go. If his chin is as good as most people think it is, he should ignore any incoming and smash Ward in the mush everytime he tries to clinch or headbutt him. He needs to be very aggressive if he is to win away from home again, so he needs to walk forward and punch, avoid clinches and then punch some more. No jabbing, no backpeddling...just agressive punching.

MTF

 

1. Do not take the fight in the United States. Anywhere in the United States, and that includes Guam, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Guantanamo Bay, The Green Zone Baghdad, Checkpoint Charlie, etc.

2. He needs to allow Ward to pick the judges, but Froch's people MUST NOT allow Ward to pick the referee. They must pick a referee that suits them Jay Nady might be a good choice but I'll leave that one open...

3. Tighten up his defence.

4. Work on feints and lateral motion. Froch has a right uppercut- even Kessler found Ward with the right uppercut, when Ward lunges forward with his headbutts looking to spoil and clinch, Carl needs to have timed him with that uppercut.

5. Avoid point-blank scuffle-fests with Ward. Ward has faster hands and will shine his ass to a decision if he is allowed.

6. Just punch fuck out of the cunt. Whatever Ward does that is illegal, Froch must double up on it. If he is going to lose a point for a low-blow or a headbutt, it has to be a sickener. He must take something out of Ward when he infracts. I think Froch has this down, he did it with Johnson, swapping low-blows for low-blows. Froch used the shoulder to good effect against Johnson when Johnson tried to maul inside. Froch must do this again with Ward.

 

I am fully behind Froch in this one. He needs to go all out. I think he can do it.

WAR FROCH!!!!

 

Come on.

He doesn't have the sort of competition level that allows a man to build up a neat and concise KO streak.

He busted Kesslers eye open with a legitimate punch and may well have had Kessler down off a right hand if it was called correctly.

Dirrell was hard to nail flush and Abraham was just turtle-shelling it. You are't going to blow these people away.

He stopped Brian Magee with a single right uppercut around 5 years before so-called puncher Bute managed it.

Froch can hit. He's not a killer. But he can hit.

 

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Fair enough.

 

If Froch cannot get the fair shake, then he needs to fight fire with fire and risk disqualification. Let Ward win the tournament on a disqualification rather than allow Ward to butt his way to a stoppage or Tech-D.

 

He needs to ask Tarver how to beat Ward.

 

that's how I see it, whenever Ward tries to fight dirty, he should fight
dirty X2 at the risk of losing by dq. He won't win if he lets Ward fight his style.

 

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Fucking Tarver, plugging himself all night. He even started on about how Johnson had stopped Roy.:Hanzkiller:

 

froch would have to create distance and land his long range punches from odd angles. he has a weird as uppercut he throws and the way ward dips below the waist-line, i think it's plausible. but then again, ward's an aggressive grappler, so i think it will be difficult for froch to fight from the outside.

 

This is probably the worst fight plan I've ever seen.

 

....Get the BETTER of the INFIGHTING...

& that's ENTIRELY Plausible for Froch, who DOESN'T Pussyfoot in the Ring...Dude had NO Problems Bending the Rules in the Dirrell Fight...Ward's Developing a Reputation for FLIRTING w/the Rules (2 Say the Least), but Froch is a Guy that will Not Only Reciprocate those Tactics, he'll Fucking INITIATE Them....

Froch has to Bring the BITCH, the "Dirrell" Out of Andre Ward, if it Even Exists...Ward Started his Career as what REED Refers to as a "Rent-a-Roy"...Roy's INFLUENCE on Ward was OBVIOUS...But Since the Super 6 or just Prior, Ward has Morphed into a HYBRID of Roy Jones & BERNARD HOPKINS, in REED's Opinion...Like BHop, Ward is Accused of LEADING w/his Head, Holding AND Hitting, Hitting on the Break, Hitting BELOW the Belt a Time or 2, etc...

BECAUSE of the Super 6, REED has Become a FAN of Andre Ward's...He's TOUGHER than Given Credit for AND there's Something TO the Fact that he HASN'T LOST A SINGLE BOXING MATCH, Pro OR Amateur, Since he was a CHILD...Especially in the Ammy's, You're GOING to LOSE Fights, Even if You're Good...But Ward HASN'T, Since Childhood...

The Super 6 has ALSO Given REED More Respect for Carl Froch than he Initially had...REED's Always had POSITIVE Opinions of Froch, for the Most Part, but this Resume he's Amassed HAS to B Respected by ANY Boxing Fan...Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham & Johnson???...Followed by Ward???....Even if Froch ISN'T your Cup of Tea, he's GOT to B Respected by ANY Boxing Fan...AND his Baby Momma is HOT!!!!....

Andre Ward SHOULD B Favored, but Carl Froch is MORE than Capable of WINNING...He's Got an INFLATED Sense of himself, but that's the Type of Attitude & SWAGGER that REED Looooooooves in a Fighter...If YOU Don't Believe You'll Win, WHYthefuck Should Anybody Else Believe it???...

Froch ISN'T Going to "OutBox" or "OutSlick" Andre Ward...To Win, he's Got to B Willing to Do ANY & EVERY Thing it Takes, as he Exhibited in the Dirrell Fight...




REED

 

So says the worst prognostigator of fights the world has ever seen.

MTF

 

You're bang on here I think. Froch will have a huge size advantage over Ward (an underrated factor in how easily he handled AA), he's got to come forward behind a high guard and try to put it to use, one way or another. If he gives Ward time and space it's over before it begins.

I expect Ward to win by a wide, wide margin tbh. He's still sorely underrated and I think this fight will wake people up to just how good he is

 

He needs to bring that straight right down the pipe into play early and as often as possible, and as Irish said, time that uppercut whenever Andre rushes in with his head down to clinch. He needs to disguise it more than he's doing at the moment, sometimes when he throws it he looks mildly retarded.

 

I really expect Ward to be a step ahead in terms of these kind of boxing adjustments. He's a thinker and an adapter in there and way out of Froch's league in that department. Froch has his physicality, the toughness to impose it and pretty much nothing else here.

He's gotta get his hands up higher though, thats the one simple adjustment I think he has to make for Ward. You can't apply effective come forward pressure with your left at your thigh. I don't think Froch has a Mayweather type brain to make that fix though.

 

Ali shuffle?

 

REED was Chatting Last Night w/Brother Whiskey, the MASTER STRATEGIST that we All Know & Love...He Devised the Brilliant, Almost UNHEARD of Strategy of Froch Punching Ward in the Face VERY HARD & MULTIPLE Times...w/his Right AND Left Hand...Moreso, Froch Needs to PREVENT Ward from Punching Him in the Face...

If Froch ADHERES to this Gameplan, he Can Pull an Upset Here....



REED

 

AgREED with most of the sentiments expressed here. Its pretty routine in that both guys know what they have to do.

Ward deserves more credit for being hard to be beat and for being tough.

Froch deserves more credit as he is smarter and cuter than people think.

I have a feeling that the fight will enhance the reputations of both men.