Can't compare ggg/Geale to ward/kessler exactly...everyone knew Geale would lose. Likewise, cotto numbers need put into context (though obviously cotto is a bigger draw regardless his opponent).
Post All the Laughing Smiley's You Want, Ward has OUTSOLD GGG, Period...Post Evidence to the Contrary, or Shut the Fuck Up... GGG's "Drawing Power" is a Product of ACTIVITY & HYPE...But if he was Legitimately POPULAR, There'd have Been Considerably MORE than 8500 Asses in the Seats... REED:elmo:
REED Has...HOWEVER You Slice it, Ward Generated MORE Sales... PERIOD... Numbers DON'T Lie... REED:nono:
cory stinks has OUTSOLD ward. :notallthere: guess he is currently a bigger draw despite the sparse crowd he brought in when he was getting ragdolled around the ring vs that bum bundrage in indio golovkin is not a big draw but his numbers are steadily increasing and people want to see him. avoid the commodities market if youre that oblivious to context and trends.
When's the LAST Time Stinks had a Fight, Homeslice???...Has he Been the Least Bit RELEVANT Since Zab KO'ed Him???... Andre Ward is In his Prime, HIGHLY Regarded & Ranked NO WORSE than # 3 on the Planet by Any REPUTABLE Source, as REED Types... Piss Poor Example... Did You REALLY Bring a Cory Spinks KNIFE to an Andre Ward GUN "Fight"???::... Golovkin's Numbers MAY Increase; that REMAINS to Be Seen...AIN'T NO Guarantee's Though... A Fighter's Drawing Power is DIRECTLY Related to the FREQUENCY of his Fights, WHO he's Fighting & the RESULTS...If GGG Lost to a Fairly Non-Descript Cat, that Would DEFECATE Upon Any "Context and Trends" or PERCEPTIONS of Him Being a "Draw", that You're Hanging your Hat On, in the BOXING Commodities Market... REED:kidcool:
forget stinks then. some guy who used to sell waaay more tickets than ward just fought yesterday in a barn in latvia. i guess he's a bigger draw as well. golovkin's numbers HAVE increased. that is just as indisputable as is the fact that wards numbers have declined. a fighters drawing power is a direct result of whether fans are interested in watching them fight.
When's the LAST Time the Winner of that Latvian Bout was RELEVANT, Neil???... Sure, GGG's Numbers have Increased, but ANY Number of Factors Could EASILY Diminish that "Trend" You're CLINGING To, in a Bout or 2...Let GGG Sit Out 6 Months or So & See How Much of a "Draw" he Is Afterwards...Or Let him STRUGGLE w/a Guy NOBODY Thinks he'll Have Any Issues w/... To Date, Dude HASN'T Proven Shit...In the Ring OR @ the Box Office...But if You Want to NUTHUG the Cat Regardless, You have REED's Blessing... REED:kidcool:
Golovkin has proven he is currently more popular than ward. Blame it on inactivity if you want. I honestly only know 1 person that ever asks me about when ward is fighting.
REED's hate for Golov is far surpassing anybody's "nut huggery" of him. He's on some Mex hate of Tszyu type shit right now.
Agreed. He may deny it, but it's proper hate. The things he's saying are downright illogical, which is when you can tell it's hate :kidcool:
Yeah when you are ripping a guy for calling out the lineal champ of the same division he's fighting in and demanding he seek challenges in a higher weight class, that's proper Hateration
out of all the nonsense he's been spouting i found this one amusing. ^^ I guess if he''d have fought geale in september instead of last saturday the garden wouldve been empty! :goodnews:
Exactly, and comparing drawing power with a proven world class fighter like Kessler, to a barely known scrub like Geale, as if opponents don't matter.
I wish fightbeat was around in the 80's. Somebody would be saying "This fraud Hagler can call out Leonard, and Hearns. Why doesn't he want any parts of Spinks?" GGG is a middleweight through and through. He's a middleweight in any era. Ward is a BIG supermiddleweight, and prior to that division being established, he would have had to compete at 175. REED's quick to bring up the size difference between Golov and Cotto, yet wants to ignore the size difference between Ward and GGG. Let boring ass Ward move up HIMSELF, and fight a man his OWN size, Kovalev. Haven't you ever seen photos of Ward and GGG standing side-by-side? GGG looks like a pygmy next to Ward.
Agreed. Frock, Kessler and Ward are all BIG supermiddleweights, they look more like light heavyweights.
That's the MAIN reason I'd favor Ward over GGG. Size. I don't really view Ward as better. Just a lot bigger.
dont matter how big froch is. golovkin would break his beak, make him meek, mount him & turn him into erin frockovich by early next week
Ridiculous. Ward is more skilled than GGG. That's not a swipe at GG either. I just think Ward is better overall. Ward is better defensively and GGG is better offensively when he's moving forward. I haven't seen much of what he can do when he's forced to move backward. I don't get the hate for Ward. I like watching him.
Ward better offensively than GGG? Huuuhhhhhh? Are you on the dust? Golov is the best offensive fighter in the sport currently. There should be NO debate about that.
what the fuck. Have reading and comprehension skills gone dark since I started posting again? Re-read what I wrote then try again.
REED is Only "Ripping" GGG FANS Who Feel Cotto is Somehow OBLIGATED to Fight Him... If GGG Fans are PMS'ing & Interpreting that as "Hate", So Be It... REED:blah:
Example # 4,080 of How OVERRATED GGG Is... Who EXACTLY has he Beaten to Be DEFINITIVELY Labeled "The Best Offensive Fighter in the Sport Currently"???... REED:shit #2:
He calls out Cotto and gets criticized for doing so despite Cotto being the lineal champion of the division he fights in... That is LUDRICUTH
Who can he beat? If he gets Cotto and demolishes him, you guys will be in here with this "Cotto's not a real middleweight" thing... So who can he beat? If gets Martinez and sodomizes him, Martinez is already washed-up, Cotto already did it, etc., etc. I keep hearing the same thing "who has he beaten?" ... What middleweight in the world has he not fought that you think he needs to fight to prove to you that he's "legit"?