Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Mostarda, Jul 15, 2017.
I didnt think anything could top the toronto press conference, but i stand corrected.
The intensity of it....
I don't give a flying fuck how boring the Canelo-Golov build-up is. One fight is a joke... this fight is not.
I'm glad there's no contrived act of bad blood in this matchup. It would come across as totally transparent, since we all know Golov & Canelo respect and like eachother.
But it won't matter, cause once the first bell rings they're gonna be attempting to beat the shit outta one another, and that's all that matters to me.
GGG comes off as really GGGay to me.
Where / when have we expcet that before only to be utterly disappointed....
Stylewise this has to be a great fight. GGG only fights one way; pressure pressure pressure. Canelo responds violently when his opponent pressures him.
alvarez will sit there taking jabs. and have no answer. if he gets brave he'll get fucked up bad.
He reminds me of Chekov from Star Trek - the 60s version
Big hitting pressure-fighter vs Big-hitting counter-puncher.
Both have good chins.
Best matchup since De La Hoya x Trinidad, imo.
The more I get into this the less I´m interested in Money-Mac...
(and tbh, I´m more interested in UFC214: Cormier-Jones II/Woodley-Maia than that)
Golovkin is a counter-puncher, and I'd call Canelo a solid hitter rather than a big puncher, despite impressively dispatching the papier mache chins of Khan and Kirkland.
He's a pressure counter-puncher though - comes at you all night but either waits for you to throw or feints to get you to throw, then BOOM.
On PAPER, DLH-Trinidad was a more anticipated matchup. I was looking MORE forward to it at the time than I currently am Canelo-Golov. The PR-Mexico rivarly, the fact that both were unbeaten and at their peaks.... and unlike Canelo and Golov who like eachother, DLH and Tito hated eachother.
But that was on paper. We all know what actually transpired in the ring.
I'm sure Canelo-Golov will be a better fight than Tito-DLH.
DLH and Tito didnt hate each other.
They didn't particuarly like eachother, but maybe that's more on Tito's end.
Then again, Tito wasn't a "friendly" fighter like Golov, he didn't really like any of his opponents.
But the point remains, DLH-Tito was more anticipated on paper.
I'm ready for GGG to smash that ginger meatball so my Mexican friends will shut the fuck up. Looking forward to this. I have a hard time imagining how it wouldn't be an exciting fight.
GGG is going to hurt The Ginger pretty bad. It will be the Biggest Drama show in All of Mexico
I really hope so, but then I saw GGG fading & aging in his last two bouts. This is no longer the mismatch of a year ago.
Alvarez has a Jab of his Own, he's (Slightly) Quicker Handed and WILL Attack and Test GGG to the Body...
If Triple G has ANY "Kovalev" in Him, in Regards to Bodyshots, Shit Could Get VERY Interesting...
De la Hoya Trinidad was indeed bigger than Canelo GGG. We tend to forget how big hat fight was simply because of how disappointing it turned out.
Textbook Counterpunchers Don't Operate from the RANGE Triple G Prefers...He's a LOT Closer to his Opponent, than Typical Counterpunchers Like to Be...
He's about as AGGRESSIVE a "Counterpuncher" as You'll Ever See...
Duran was the best ever aggressive counterpuncher.
Jose Napoles is up there as well.
It's a closer fight than a couple years ago, but I still lean towards GGG to stop Canelo late, or perhaps win a UD over a tentative Canelo.
Of course, but that will pay huge dividends against Canelo. The constant pressure will force Alvarez to throw, leaving plenty of countering opportunities, and Canelo won't be afforded the same lulls in action to catch his breath which he's accustomed to. Nor does Canelo have the range or movement Jacobs could employ to take rounds. This fight will be a massacre.
You are so wrong it's not funny. This is what I love about live fights as opposed to Mythical Matchups; we actually get to prove that we know shit. Canelo doesn't have a stamina problem.,,he fights in spurts because that's his style, but he's always as strong in the 12th round as he is in the first. GGG has never fought a guy with the combination on power, handspeed and offensive repertoire that Canelo has and GGG has shown that while he has a great chin, he can be bothered with punches. He doesn't just walk through power the way Hagler did.
Canelo will give GGG way too much room and time to think. It's unfortunate but if Canelo fought in a more traditional Mexican style, he'd likely trouble GGG a lot more.
After a few rounds Canelo will be terrified of getting tagged and will go defensive. He may last the distance.
He has a stamina problem, which is evident because he fights in spurts, conserving his energy for later rounds. He hasn't got the stamina for a high workrate fight.
If he does that spurt-fighting against GGG, he'll get walked down and whacked. Kid has to fight this one out to win it.
Lately, Canelo has been able to fight at his own pace. Even in the Cotto fight, Miggy was too small and faded to make a real impact, and Canelo was able to fight at his own pace.
Plus, Cotto HIMSELF has always been notorious for having dodgy stamina.
If Golov can dictate the pace, we'll truly find out about Canelo's stamina.
Canelo will have to fight like a Mexican, and I'm not sure that he can.
All-in-all, to simplify this matchup, I think it comes down to whoever establishes the better/more consistent jab.
IF the Ginger can disrupt Golov's jab, and keep him on the end of his combos, he can pull it off.
If Golov establishes the better jab, and the Ginger is forced backwards, then Golov will beat that ass.
The dominance of the jab is paramount in this fight.
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