Gennady Golovkin vs. Canelo Álvarez: Sept 16 2017 - Official thread

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  1. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    If he didn't have a stamina problem he wouldn't fight in spurts. I don't even think that's the main reason he'll lose, but lose he will.
     
  2. Xplosive

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    Forget stamina, more importantly, we're gonna find out about Canelo's HEART.

    There was definitely "give" exposed in him by Floyd.

    Is there a possibility that Golov can bring that "give" out again? Absolutely.
     
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    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I've questioned Canelo's power ever since he hit Mosley with everything in the kitchen sink and Mosley kept coming, and didn't go into any kind of defensive shell. Mosley almost always goes into defensive shells when he's getting hit a lot, and this was an old ass Mosley against Alvarez.

    Canelo has some highlight reel KOs against guys with soft chins and seems to hits hard to get respect from other opponents. Overall I say he has decent power.
     
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    Yep, exactly how I see it.
     
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    Canelo was missing and getting countered...that discourages anyone. GGG is a different type of fight.
     
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    When Duran was chasing Leonard in the rematch...he quit. It's not a lack of heart...it's just frustration.
     
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    Mosley has a good chin though.
     
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    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

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    I think it will be the other way around. I think Canelo has a good chance of REALLY hurting GGG to the body than GGG to hurt Canelo. Ginger has been hurt in the past, has coped with the storm and has comeback and won. GGG has never been seriously hurt and we could see how much heart he has in that kind of scenario.
     
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    I can only recall Canelo ever being HURT by Miggy's brother... but he was only 19 and his body hadn't even filled out, so I always give him a pass.

    But that still proves that Canelo isn't Hagler, he CAN be hurt. Golov is gonna show that.
     
  11. Destruction and Mayhem

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    No one is Hagler. His chin was from another planet.

    Canelo is pretty durable though. What will be interesting to see, to REED's point, is how well GGG reacts to body punches. Canelo is a murderous body puncher...and after seeing what happened to Kovalev, I have no doubt that Canelo is going to employ a similar strategy against this other Eastern European. The suspicion now is that Euro's have good chins but glass bodies....
     
  12. Anthony

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    Isnt GGG from Asia?
     
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    Any fighter can be hurt to the body. It has nada to do with race.

    Canelo hurting Golov to the body does seem like a more likely scenario than hurting him to the head, no doubt about that.

    Golov pretty much abandoned the body against Jacobs, which was the MAIN reason for his struggle.

    For this, I think he'll be fully invested in punishing the Ginger's body.
     
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    The more we talk about this fight, the more pumped im getting for it. You guys are making great points for both fighters.
     
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    Kazakhstan is geographically Asia, but culturally Europe. It's former Soviet Union.

    Same way Guyana is geographically South America but Culturally West Indies.
     
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    Well that definitely explains the gayness.
     
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    Canelo definitely has a chance to win this fight.
     
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    Yup he's a live underdog
     
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    Fuck it....my official prediction is Canelo TKO 11
     
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    For some reason I see a shocker of Hatton/Tszyu proportions

    Like Tszyu, GGG is nearing the end and like Hatton, Canelo is young and hungry
     
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    Red tinge snippets, russian-asiatic mask,.. good pop-art material to recreate that old fight. Not bad:emoji_ok_hand:
     
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    The only issue is - Canelo is not going to war it out with GGG like Hatton did with Tszyu. He'll sit back, look for the openings, give GGG room and time.

    Plus he's smaller - he'd need a physical advantage and he doesn't have one.

    I can't see it happening.
     
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    Canelo isn't as big an underdog as Hatton was. It wouldn't be considered as big of an upset. I dunno the exact odds as of now, but I know GGG isn't a big favorite. Tszyu was a wide favorite over Hatton.

    Inactivity hurt Tszyu just as much as his advanced age did.

    Golov is getting up in years, but he's always kept active and I think he has more left in the tank than Tszyu had in 05.
     
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    While I'll be rooting for GGG to bring an early Xmas present by knocking out the Ginger, my brain tells me that Canelo will give him hell, more than any other fighter GGG has ever faced. This is a toss up IMO, but I want GGG to win convincingly because if it goes the distance Canelo might get a gift.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    A close fight on the cards will likely favor Canelo. Golovkin has gotta put him away IMO, or win it one sidedly on the cards.

    Hopefully Triple G hasn't gotten old overnight.
     
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    I don't think GGG has gotten old just yet.

    Jacobs made GGG look bad because he used his height and reach with the fast jab, broke GGG's rhythm enough so his "pressure counter fighting" style became disrupted. He also was very loose at the waist and made GGG miss more than usual, and wasn't afraid to use the reach advantage in combinations then skip out when GGG tried to retaliate.

    Canelo will not have the reach nor footwork to establish his jab to nearly the same degree - he'll have to enter the zone of fire to get off, and he'll pay for it.
     
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    So you are saying that 'glass body' is not in genes but rather a cultural thing? Interesting yet obviously a scientific theory.

    Interesting fight where both can use their strengths. Golovkin is at his best at mid-range whereas Canelo works better up close.

    I believe it is going to be a close, grueling fight that is about even after eight but I expect Golovkin's power prevailing at the end. It is far from given though
     
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    TBH, I'm not saying that it is genetic or cultural. I wasn't being totally serious on that point truth be told. I was only referencing he fact that Ward stop granite chinned Kovalev because of body shots and so who knows the same thing may happen here.
     
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  30. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Totally hyped for this fight now - and I´ve never been that much of a fan of either, tbh.

    Given their recent respective opponents, size, reach, age, skills, power, defence, durability, infighting, ring-generalship, this matchup is extremely hard to pick - which is why I think its going to be a great fight.
    I´m officially going to go with Golovkin and the only reason he edges this is the ´opponent-moving-up´ variable...I think the extra weight is going to take the edge off his superior speed.

    I dont buy into the Golovkin-is-on-the-slide theory either - I know he looked subpar against Jacobs - but that was a 170-75lb, 6´0, +2in reach Jacobs on a 7-0 KO streak.
     

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