GREAT Performance by Calzaghe!!!...

That's what I've been saying for months.

 

I wanna give Kessler some props too. He fought a GREAT fight and was a WARRIOR at the end. When was the last time we saw someone who was losing the fight at the 12th round go for broke trying for the knockout. I am definately a Kessler fan now.

 

kessler needed to throw more punches and use better footwork and timing.

the right hand was landing on calzaghe regularly and the uppercuts were a good idea.

it was a clear loss though, as hard as it is to admit. I thought kessler did well, but he wasn't as good as I thought. I did think Calzaghe would win on points but i just HOPED Kessler did it.

Ah well at least I have PBF vs Hatton to look forward to. That will be a nice LIQUIDATION by PBF. I can't wait.

But unfortunately I don't think I'll ever see Calzaghe beaten.

 

I don't know where the fuck Kesslers energy went. He had plenty of gusto in the first 5 sessions, but Joe kept him off balance and landed some choice body shots later on. Joe basically owned the latter half of the fight.

 

For me, fitness was a key element tonight: I had Mikkel up after 6 (and looking very dangerous) until Joe seemingly found extra gears in terms of movement and fitness and pulled away late (rounds 7 and 12 excepted, IMO)

Won me a few hundred quid too :cheer:

MTF

 

Marciano was 1-d too.:dunno:

Kessler would have beaten a lot of fighters tonight.

Joe Cal was just smart enough in the latter rounds to take the wind out of his sails and leave him grasping at straws.

 

I was rooting for Kessler but was up in the air about the outcome. Calzaghe is the goods and has now finally fought the guys to prove it.

Calzaghe has the perfect chin to fight the way he does. He can afford to get reckless every once in awhile. I think it won him the fight. Kessler just couldn't slow him down no matter how hard he hit him.

I don't see how Kessler could ever beat this version of Calzaghe just because it doesn't look like he can really hurt him, but I wouldn't mind seeing him try if the Hopkins or Pavlik fights don't pan out.

 

Marciano was a 1 dimensional attacking fighter, big difference.

Calzaghe is better than Marciano anyway.

Kessler indeed would have beaten a lot of fighters, because he is very good. Just not Calzaghe.

 

It's nice to know you'll be picking Hatton against Fraud Dympeople,...:eeeek: you wouldn't deviate for that one would you,..if indeed this curse is true as you so passionately claim?..

 

I think Joe has too much hand and foot speed (admittedly Kessler has plenty of the latter also) and scores too often with those eye-catching flurries again.

Calzaghe UD
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I don't think I was too far out MWS... :tease:

MTF

 

Kessler was throwing a ton of hard shots and when he was hitting it didn't seem to have an affect on Joe and when he was missing he was wearing himself down.

I thought Kessler had plenty of energy at the end of the fight but Calzaghe just seems to be able to kick it into another gear that most fighters just don't have.

 

Kessler said afterwards that in the 5th/6th he missed a couple of big right and then Joe landed a big punch to his stomach. This took the wind from him and he felt he had to take the edge off his power punches for fear of it happening again. - not an exact transcript of his interviewe, but pretty much his words.

 

Well done MTF :bears:

 

Great fight. Kessler just doesnt have enough wrinkles to handle a Joe Calaghe yet. Calzaghe is the fucking man. Great performance in a super high quality fight.

 

I think Kessler would waste any middlweight out there. And I do mean any. He'd stop Pavlik in a few rounds.

 

Joe's chin was 'outstanding' tonight: those shots would have knocked down/out most fighters...

MTF

 

You're overrating Kessler just to make Joe's win look even better than it is, and because Kessler is European.

Pavlik is a better fighter than Kessler, and you'll find this out if they ever fight.

 

2 things that seem to get consistently underrated with Joe - his chin and physical strength. He showed them both tonight. He is one tough, strong bastard.

 

Shit yeah- he's far, far too good for Kelly right about now...

MTF

 

Kessler is as big and is faster.

And Pavlik doesn't have an Iron chin.

The mobility and speed which Joe gave Kessler tonight would be absent vs Pavlik, as would the nouse on the inside.

Kessler beats Pavlik.:nono: :nono:

 

Probably

 

Not too many should be questioning you after tonight:clap: :clap:

 

I never for one minute underestimated his strength: I fancied he'd be stronger than Mikkel period. But, in those first six rounds, he took some BIG right hands. I winced watching 'em. But he just walked right on in...

Fucking superb :bears:

MTF

 

Pavlik filled out a bit at 168 would be bigger and hit harder. He also has more skill, adaptability, and is a better thinking fighter.

He has a MUCH higher workrate, and better timing, and a better array of punches.

 

I agree with all of this, but I still think that Joe would beat him. This may change as Kelly becomes more experienced, but right now (as in, they fight tomorrow), who would you put your money on MWS?

MTF

 

He'd also be a full 8lbs slower. And Dang, thats slow.

And he is nowhere near as surgically precise as Kessler.

How anyone can say he has better timing than Mikkel is beyond me.

Mikkel timed Joe beautifully several times tonight.

 

No no MTF, I would pick Joe to beat him. I was talking about Pavlik compared to Kessler ::

 

Yes "several" times being key. Not lots of times.

His timing looked good in the 4th round, other than that to be honest his timing and accuracy looked pretty average. How many of his punches missed by a country mile and went sailing over Joe's head? 200?

 

TF4T- I thought you had gone all daft, and with me being 12 snakebites into a decent session, I was becoming very confused...::

I actually think that Mikkel beats Pavlik though: Mikkel looked poor tonight but that is no reflection on him, but more a reflection on Joe. Those shots he landed early doors (tonight) would have been a wake up call to Kelly, at the very least...

MTF

 

MTF am I correct in thinking you're English?

If so, how come you said "period".

I'm not sellign Kessler short. He didn't look poor tonight, he fought he always does, and how I thought he would. He simply wasn't on Joe's level and was too basic and robotic to really figure him out.

Kessler is not a thinking fighter, he is more of a fundamental mechanical fighter.

Pavlik, despite looking sloppy, IS a thinking fighter, is more adaptable, has better timing and accuracy, probably hits harder, and has a MUCH higher workrate.

I would seriously pick Pavlik over Kessler in his first fight at 168.