Great undercard for floyd jr/dlh

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  1. slystaff

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    Casual fans are brought into the sport by the main event, not the undercard.
     
  2. Hanzy

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    :notallthere: Dummy! The same fans can be lost if the event is sh*t. Which it most likely will be.
     
  3. slystaff

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    My point is....


    If the main event is SHIT..the fans are lost anyway...regardless of how good the undercard was. They don't come to see a good fight between two nobodies (nobodies in their eys...remember that) anymore than you or I would be interested in seeing a GREAT fight in a gymnasium somewhere between two skilled but unknown dudes...

    oh..and that's MISTER Dummy to you...
     
  4. slystaff

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    NONE of us here, were brought into the sport by an undercard fight. NONE.

    All of us are products of main events...every single one of us.

    I defy anyone to prove me otherwise...:warning:
     
  5. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You fool, staff. You're just disagreeing for the sake of arguing. You know I'm right. Everybody knows the sport has been hurt by the points I mentioned, and mentioned by 99.9% of the other fans out there for the past umpteen years.
     
  6. Father of Muzse

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    Are you kidding?

    Certainly you don't have such a simplistic view of things.
     
  7. Hanzy

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    I'll prove you otherwise. What's your location? I'll come over there and run you over with my cab!
     
  8. slystaff

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    Don't get your Turban in a bunch my hairy friend...

    I'm just disagreeing. Every casual fan that I know who has been converted to the dark side...has been converted by the main event...the undercard was inconsequential.


    We can argue about this till we're both blue in the face...but it doesn't change the fact that casual fans DO NOT care about the undercard. only WE do!!
     
  9. Hanzy

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    Buttwipe, all I'm saying is the sport would be bigger considerably if marketed better. That means better cards, and more free-tv fights. Which part of that don't your movie-star wannabe ass understand?
     
  10. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    But great undercards turn casual fans into hardcore fans.

    TFK
     
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    terrible undercard, of course I'm paying for the main event.
     
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    :clap: I'm hoping at least one fight turns into a slugfest, prolly the Bautista fight
     
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    I have some friends who saw Lamar Murphy-Victoriano Sosa and they started watching more fights, same with Leo Dorin-Raul Balbi 1, they pretty much started watching FNF when it came on, but all the bullshit decisions and foul stench that came from that disgusted them
     
  15. slystaff

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    When? You're being idealistic, not realistic.

    It's only hardcore fans who appreciate a good undercard. The rest are only interested in the main event and usually talk through the undercard and look at their watches, waiting for it to finish.
     
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  16. Father of Muzse

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    That's bullshit Sly.

    Women's boxing got a huge push based on Christy Martin. The fight that got it kicked off was on the undercard of Tyson-Holyfield I. It wasn't the fact that it was women fighting which made the fight interesting, it was due to the excitment in the match itself.

    If you've got a room full of guys watching a fight and there's a good fight on the undercard, you can't tell me that doesn't help build to the main event.

    Based on your logic, there should only be a main event and the undercards are skipped all together.

    Hell, the Pac-Solis undercard was better than DLH-PBF. I didn't feel bad about buying that undercard. It was worth the money.

    A quality undercard sets the tone for the evening.
     
  17. Erratic

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    I wasn't brought to the sport by big events.

    My dad works for the commission and got me into the small local fights. I became a fan from there on.

    Obviously the main event is the most important and has the most impact, but with casual fans who may be cynical about boxing, they may at least say "well the fight before Mayweather-De La Hoya was good" if the main event sucks.

    I remember after the Tyson-Holyfield II fight, back then they showed the preliminary fights on PPV after the main event. After the bite fight, my friend who is a casual fan was glued on to the fight afterwards and watching carefully and said it was awesome. He's a bit of a sadist though, because from what I remember it was a one-sided beating.
     
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    I agree, for this price and it's exposer they needed to upgrade the undercard! I can't believe this is over 50 bucks!:nono:
     
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    On the contrary, olde boy...it was EXACTLY that!
     
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    NO, I'm not saying that!

    I'm saying that undercards only serve to entertain those of us who are already hardcore fans. The casual fans don't care about relative unknowns. They only care about such events..when they are hardcore fans.

    This is OBVIOUS!
     
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    That's because.....


    YOU ARE A HARDCORE FAN!!!


    that's my point. :kick:
     
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    Juarez is going to execute Hernandez.
     
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    I expect him to as well

    I'm hoping Bautista gets tested or goes to war
     
  24. Azazel

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    False, one of the first PPV I bought was ODLH-Trinidad, and if the Jirov-Brown fight wasn't on the undercard I may had very well not been into boxing as much
     
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    DLH is turning to be a fine piece of shit, talks of saving boxing and, while he's already full of $$$$$, use the same shaddy tactics that Arum used ( every decent fight on PPV with a cheap undercard ) but one level further. This is pathetic.
     
  26. mikE

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    martin against deidre gogharty was THE fight that brought women's boxing into the mainstream. It was an undercard fight. On a HUGE ppv card.
     
  27. Double L

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    Much of Tito and Chavez's exposure came on under-cards.

    Arce made it big on an under-card. He was already famous, but his first fight with Hussein paved the way for his frequent appearances on HBO.

    Did anyone care about Mijares before he wiped his ass with Arce? $10 bucks says his next fight is on TV.

    What are some other examples? I know there have been some legendary fights on PPV under-cards, but I can't think of them.

    I think it's pathetic that anyone who calls themself a boxing fan would excuse a shitty under-card. I think only a fan-boy would have the attitude that the under-card doesn't matter.
     
  28. Rubio MHS

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    I gave a shit about Mijares because he beat Kawashima, and because I knew he should be the underdog instead of Arce.
     
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    Martin's fight (the one that landed her the SI cover) was actually on the Tyson-Bruno II undercard, but otherwise, agREED on all.
     
  30. Double L

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    you mean you thought that Arce should be the under-dog?
     

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