How come no Vasquez-Marquez talk?

Well Vazquez had a shitload of excuses for his loss, now it is Rafa´s turn. Although Rafa has nobody to blame, but himself for getting inside too often and opening himself up to the lefthook. He wanted to punish Vazquez for his comments and paid the price. What he should have done is stay outside, work the jab and nail him with the straight right all night long. Vazquez is stronger with the better chin, but Marquez can beat him on points or stop him on cuts, he almost did in this fight. About the only part of Vazquez´ face, that was fine, was his nose. ::

It was an awesome fight, and I´m a fan of both fighters, but what killed that night for me were those farkin Chicago judges and their retarded looking son. :flip:

I still haven´t watched Solis/Mayol. I don´t know if I can watch another fight until somebody kills David Diaz and I´ll go as low as cheering for Casamayor. ::

 

that was a good fight. mayol get knocked the fuck out.

 

I hear Suleiman wants the rubbermatch to be in Mexico. I wonder how that will go. I haven't seen a huge championship fight in Mexico in a long time.

 

I was waiting for the usual media drama queens to scream corruption when he announced that the other day. But to be honest, a lot of these matchups belong in Mexico and it's a shame that the country is forced out over American network politics.

I think the last fight HBO did in Mexico was Morales-Junior Jones, and said they would never return unless de la Hoya planned on fighting over there.

 

Oscar's dream was always to sell out Azteca stadium against Trinidad according to him. :laughing:

 

He also said he'd retire before 30 to be an architect.

 

and is trying to clean up boxing.:laughing:

 

I think Marquez-Vazquez could fight 100 times and each would win 50 - they're that evenly matched. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Marquez come back and win the 3rd fight.

Thought the stoppage was a little premature, but wasn't an outrage or anything. Ref had the best view and it was his call to make.

As for the 'there not being much blood' comment - are you kidding? There was a lot of blood - the whole right side of Vazquez's face was covered in it a couple of times.

 

I agree, I laugh when some try to make one of the fighters superior than the other.

each guy has stopped the other so far. They are 1-1 right now. Both can hurt the other and either guy can win the third fight.

 

marquez is a super bantam in his 30s. not sure if can comeback from two brutal fights at this stage of his career.

 

yep. after seriously hurting Solis twice.

 

there's no way ODH is bright enough to be an architect. either that, or it's all an act and he's not an air-head.

 

Marquez was on Queer Street for the last 90 seconds or so,so I don't see how that was a bad stoppage??

But Karl thinks so

 

To Karl everything short of death is premature.

 

For once, I agree with Gary Shaw.
That referee should never be allowed to officiate a world title fight again, and needs to be banned completely in Texas.

 

This fight is what boxing is all about.

Is in the running for the best fight of all time.:bears:

 

I thought the referee was excellent. Its not too often that you get high action fights like that without the referee making a mistake, which he didn't.

He could have easily blown the non KD (i initially thought it was), and he handled Vasquez' cuts very well.

There's nothing i hate more than when the referee stops the action mid-round to look at a cut. Vasquez' cuts were bad, but they weren't impeding his performance so the fight rightly was allowed to continue.

The stoppage was perfect. Marquez was 'fighting back' with nothing more than the occasional arm punch. He was clearly out on his feet, his legs were gone, and he was getting hit often with hard punches.

I haven't heard of one person who thinks Marquez would have survived the round if it wasn't stopped. So how is that a bad stoppage?

If anything, the stoppage will enable Marquez to be close enough to his best to make the third one a must see.

Another minute of abuse and maybe we wouldn't even be getting a third. Maybe we wouldn't want to see it. Maybe Marquez would be so bashed that he'd turn up a total shell of himself (which is still possible).

I for one, hope the Ref gets a lot more big assignments, because his control of the bout was flawless.

 

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Karl I guess we have to agree to disagree. That ref was one of the better refs I've seen on televised matches. :dunno:

 

Well if fat ass Gary Shaw gets his way that guy is going to be blacklisted for doing a good job. :doh:

 

I have to agree with you Karl.. In a blood and guts fight like this was, you can't stop a fight when a fighter, who clearly has his faculties, stumbles. His hands were up. He was only a split second removed from actually throwing a punch.

Blah.. I don't think it's a "I'll never watch boxing again" type of stoppage, but with all the punishment that both guys were willing to take, the ref should have been a little more willing also.. The 3rd man in the ring was a pussy.

 

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Did you guys want Marquez to die? That stoppage was just about as perfect as they come.

 

The stoppage was perfect, Marquez was completely done and Vazquez is a huge puncher.

That's what stoppages are all about, saving a done fighter from unnecessary punishment :dunno:

You don't fight to the death in boxing. Some of you are off your fucking nuts. Especially that coward StingerKarl.

 

Sly, don't listen to Stinger Karl, the man is a friggin' basket case, probably too punch drunk himself. Posters like Bama and Mex are absolutely correct, Marquez was out on his feet, the last punch Vasquez threw, Marquez was reeling backwards in a very awkwardly manner (almost like a silent tippy toe), Marquez' legs were all but gone leaning against the ropes, and when the ref stopped it, there was not an ounce of protest from either Marquez or his corner, and notice when the ref embraces and helps Marquez walk him to his corner, the man barely makes it to his seat.

Like Bama said, you want the guy to get killed?

:dunno:

 

Careful, the bitch might challenge you to yet another online fight.

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only a chump would do sum shit like that!

 

You got me, but I was lying remember?

I don't do that anymore.

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Come on brutha, so you're telling me you would rather of had the fight stopped earlier on cuts in Marquez's favor? Sounds like you're more of a Marquez fan than a boxing fan, or maybe you have an account with sportsbook haha j/k. Vasquez probably would of won anyways but, the ref ruined a possible Corrales/Castillo moment no doubt. There is always more closure to see a fight end by a real KO. This is boxing after all, not ballet.

 

The good thing besides avoiding a tragic end to the fight, is that it ensures a trilogy. If Marquez had been KTFO cold then a third fight probably would not be in the works right now.

 

I would have just liked to have seen it go on, as there was no reason to stop it.
Marquez was not down, he wasn't helpless, he was fighting back, it was ridiculous.
He sagged back into the ropes yeah, but so what?
Vasquez wasn't on top of him killing him, he wasn't beating the shit out of him, it was ridiculous to stop that fight.
That referee honestly needs to be suspended while the Texas commission reviews that tape.
Just a disgraceful officiating performance that tainted a great fight, no excuse for that.