Joshua-Takam

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  1. meetthefeebles

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    Even the fans were booing at the end of this one. That's how obvious it is - even the mindless drones who paid to attend could see what was happening.

    It is damaging to the sport, and to his 'brand'. Joshua was winning well enough and doesn't need this sort of 'help'.

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  2. Irish

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    Getting hit in boxing is not advisable.
     
  3. Irish

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  4. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yeah, how could they. GEtting hit a lot (and having a shitty defense) is absolutely not a weakness in boxing
     
  5. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yeah , UGTBK lititle attempt to sound clever fell way short here. Ive always felt Joshua is very limited. He's lucky he's fighting in a shit division. A Razor Ruddock would rape him
     
  6. Double L

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    Seems like a rash of quick stoppages recently, with this being maybe the worst.

    Anyone see last week's hbo main event when the ref counted to 10 in about 4 seconds?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If a fighter is aggressive, he will get hit. The important thing is, does he outland the opponent considering the amount and weight of the punches, and if he does, it is not much of a weakness.

    Surely you get this. Well, not you but many will
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    People really need to watch some tapes and remind themselves about how much, say Razor Ruddock and better guys than him, got hit. That pretty much was my point
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Your comment was idiotic between belief. Sad attempt to protect your two heroes. Not anything to glean from it
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I know it was a bit difficult. Luckily in my job I have taught several slow, I mean very special children and I have the patience. Let's try again tomorrow shall we
     
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    Early stoppage. Too bad. Takam was doing very well. Joshua seemed gassed more than a few times. He needs to work on his stamina.
     
  12. Irish

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    If you can take the punches, it is not an immediate problem.

    In the long run, and as quality of opposition increases, it becomes a problem.

    Young Wlad was a aggressive and threw shots and didn't get hit back a lot.
     
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    I know guys in boxing in England apparently there is some famed conditioning circuit that the British Amateurs use and the only guy never able to complete it was Joshua.
     
  14. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Yeah I don't think stamina per se is Joshua's issue: I'm trying to look back and think of heavyweights around 6'3" - 6'5", 240lb+ who were able to fight 12 rounds comfortably / aggressively like Joshua.

    I just think when a guy gets to that weight, 'gassing' is always going to be a factor: getting oxygen throughout a 252lb body etc, etc, the VO2 max level is going to be that much harder.

    Which is why I feel the maximum weight for heavies with the in mind is and was around 235lb
     
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    Is he always going to suffer from bad stamina? Isn't that just a weakness? If he was to lose say a stone, would that have more of an impact on his stamina?
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree that AJ should be lighter.
     
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    If Wlad had anything left, he would have been teeing off on Joshua after the 6th as Joshua needed too many rounds to get his wind back.

    He's overmuscled and has shown large flat-spots in any fight where he has been tested.

    He get's by it by usually having hurt his man too badly by that stage for the guy to take full advantage.
     
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    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    I think there have been very few "muscular' heavyweights who've been effective over time: Norton, Holyfield...
     
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    He really does look overmuscled, significantly so. I'm kind of surprised it doesn't have a bigger impact than it does actually, on his speed and stamina.
     
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    As we say in french, you become similar to the people you interact with
     
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    Haha, no - what fight was it?
     
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    Sounds like a controlled 10-count.
     
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    Sounds like a functional time advantage.
     
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    Hasty Young Timekeeper.
     
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    Workmanlike Performance for Joshua...Needs to Work on Cutting the Ring Off, for Certain...

    REED Was Impressed w/Joshua's IN-Fighting Though, Particularly for Such a Large Man...

    Premature and (Probably) CORRUPT Stoppage...The Ref Seemed FIXATED on Preserving Joshua's Perfect KO%...What Sucks is Joshua Had the Remainder of the 10th, the 11th and 12th to Get the Job Done HONESTLY...

    Along w/Takam and Boxing Fans, Joshua HIMSELF was Cheated Out of a More CONCLUSIVE Finish...






    REED:cool:
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I thought AJ looked ok. The broken nose definitely affected him. Far from his best performance, but not as bad as some painted it. Takam was indeed tough as nails. Couldn't believe he was taking all those flush shots round by round.

    I say, make AJ vs Wilder next summer. Nobody cares about Wilder and he's not superstar material. No need to build it up. It's gonna be what it is.

    If Fury wasn't such a fuck up, he'd be in line for a YUUUUGE pay day, unfortunately the only line he's in for these days is of the china white kind. Plus he's obese as fuck. That show down could have been built into a major event at Wembley but not fuckin Wilder. Dude is a clown. People laugh at him.

    They got a war on social media now. Make the fuckin fight happen.
     
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    Fury's voice sounds absolutely fucked. He looks a right state. I've said before and I'll say it again, he's not coming back the fighter he was vs Wlad. He doesn't respect his body or boxing and it will come back to haunt him. If he makes a comeback, he may lose unexpectedly, before even getting in the ring against Joshua.
     
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    Yeah, it was stopped early and yeah, who cares? Takam was overmatched and it was extremely unlikely he was going to win from what I was seeing.

    I like guys to be given the benefit of the doubt, especially when it's for the greatest title in sports, but Takam was far more likely to get hurt big time than win that fight had it gone on.
     
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    No consolation when people say, "he would've lost anyway." Let him lose. Don't stop it early.
     

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