Kov-Ward: Early discussion

I'd take a prime Slappy over Kov at this point. Kov looks like he could get frustrated and flustered if he can't land and gets hit back for too long a spell. Joe might slap him into a frenzy.

 

Can't land????? Since when did Calzaghe become fuckin Niccolino Locche??? EVERYBODY landed on Joe! Kov would just be the biggest, most powerful, most offensively skilled overall opponent Joe ever faced.

 

Prime DM was a bigger threat to Roy than Calz.

 

Yeah Joe wasn't an easy target per say, but Pernell Whitaker he was not. The guy got hit. But he had a good chin. And his hand and foot speed allowed him to get the better of slower fighters. Kovalev isn't slow. And his timing and accuracy are scary.

I think Kovalev's bombs would make Calzaghe a bit gun shy and if he tries to open up, he gets overpowered.

 

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this thread took a crapper with all the what ifs, but back on topic its refreshing almost to hear a guy even say legacy, Wards approach gets my approval . with his limited power and reliance on holding ward is the under dog to me by slimmest of margins

 

If Kov continues to look as devastating and dominant in his next two fights leading up, then yes, I would expect him to go in as the slight betting favorite.

 

Slappy had better defense, foot speed, hand speed and chin than anything Kovalev has been in with. He looked confused when the punch drunken corpse of Jean Pascal moved and potshotted him. I wouldn't be at all shocked to see Kov fall apart in a tough fight.

 

I'd be shocked to see Kov mentally fall apart in any fight. That dude has ice water running through his veins. What's a question mark is Kov's chin but I don't see much chance of Ward testing that.

 

So is this going to happen @ 171.8675 pounds?

 

Ward is apparently off the Cotto-Canelo card with knee swelling.

 

^^^ is he fighting s bum anyway....he should stay in the card..lots of exposure. That probably not good for ward cancerous style....kova should be on the undercard instead...fun destroyer style

 

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

It's a good speech from Ward, but I'll applaud him when he actually sign in for the fight.

 

Ward off the Cotto/Alvarez ppv due to a knee injury.

 

good

 

This has already been exposed as lies, but hey, lets not bullshit get in the way of fact. Nor will I derail this thread - this is a great fight, a proper 50/50 fight. Two very good (but slightly overrated) fighters in a proper, worthwhile matchup.

MTF

 

You think correctly. Hopkins pulled out of a fight with Joe with pre-contracts signed. Joe and Frunk were in the US, signing papers when Hopkins demanded double his original asking price and instead insisted on some shite about fighting Hakkar and going after whoever else. All in print, all proven fact. On the other hand, Joe has admitted himself that he didn't want a part of prime Roy. He admits as such in his autobiography.

MTF

 

How I see it. Calzaghe would have given prime Roy his toughest fight...which means Roy might lose three, maybe four tops, rounds en route to a comprehensive loss.

MTF

 

Hopkins was pissed when he found out Don King would get nearly half his purse, thus his reason for asking for more money.

Not Joe's fault or issue but it's fun to poke Joe's fans about it.

 

So you were trolling, full of shit. Gotcha.

MTF

 

The deal wasn't just for the Calzaghe fight - it was a multi-fight deal with showtime right as Tito rematches and Oscar fights on HBO fights dangled under Hopkins nose. Hopkins made more than he would have fighting three fights on showtime just for fighting Oscar less than a year later. the idea that he turned the deal down because he was scared of that slapping welsh faggot doesnt stand up.

 

All that shite aside, the idea that Calzaghe 'wanted no part of Hopkins' is shite, aye?

MTF

 

Hopkins pulled out of a Calzaghe fight after he had signed a contractual agreement 'because he wanted more money' isn't an argument I'll go against. But 'Calzaghe wanted no part of Hopkins' is obviously false.

MTF

 

Let's also rebember that cowardly Joe pulled out 3 times (at least) of a fight against glen johnson, and chose to fight mario veit iirc) instead.

 

Ahhhh, now all of a sudden Ward has changed his tune. "That's easy to say for people who aren't getting hit, but my question is, what's the rush?" Ward on fighting Kov.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if he ducked Kovalev. He'd have to be forced into that fight.

 

Ward vs Kovalev should be a superfight. If it's not, then Ward is right 'What's the rush?'

 

It IS a super fight already - for hardcores. Hate to break it to Dre, but it's NEVER gonna be a mainstream superfight. Mainly because Ward just has no crossover appeal, and if hasn't attained it by now at age 32, it's just not happening.

He's comparing it to Floyd-Pac???? LMAO!

Ward is highly delusional. Ward-Kov is never even gonna be as big as Canelo-Cotto in the mainstream, despite the fact that Ward/Kov are much better fighters than Canelo/Cotto.

The fight needs to happen THIS YEAR, while both are still in their primes. It's like they're 25 years old. Both guys are nearing their mid 30's. The time is NOW.

 

sound logic but the problem here is its not ever going to be a super fight. kovalev doesnt have much of a fan base and wards is dwindling. its not like if ward beats some run of the mill light heavies all of a sudden everyones gonna be clamoring to see his boring ass

 

At the very least, they should fight on the same card once or twice before. Or set up an 8 man, single elimination tournament with them on opposite sides of the bracket. Ward's inactivity makes this the wrong time for this fight. He's got a strong claim for p4p#1, but he's also been a non-factor in the sport for years.