Lets see if Ricky is just all talk! Floyd wants him!

It kinda matters to the promoters who put on the event. It's also a particularly REEDtarded statement considering that all revenue streams are considered when negotiating a fight. 11,000 screaming Brits means 11,000 guaranteed paid tickets...MEANING you start to look at bigger venues to accomodate ticket sales. That's Business and Common Sense 101.

Then again, I guess you have a point because the paid gate at many of the Mayweather headlined fights aren't that great anyway.

My whole point with Floyd is this...stay retired or shut the hell up.

My main problem is that guys compare Floyd to Roy in how he handles his career and that completely pisses me off. Roy was never disrespectful to his opponents and never talked the kind of shit Floyd does.

More importantly, Roy never had the caliber of guys around him Floyd does so there's no REASON for Floyd to not make the fights.

Whether you like it or not REED, even you have to admit...Floyd hasn't faced a high level guy in his prime for five or six years now.

With that said, neither has Hatton or Cotto which is why Floyd vs Hatton or Floyd vs Cotto is such an attractive idea.

 

Oscar's quote at the time was something like "I won't fight Shane Mosley. You guys will say I beat up another little guy."

After Oscar loses to Trinidad, he gets back the WBC title then claims "four fights, four knockouts" and Shane's supposed to be the second of the four KO's...we know how that turned out.

 

Splendid post. Filled with superior logic. You are a genius my friend!

 

The Whole "11,000 Brits" Thing is Being EXAGGERATED...OVERBLOWN...

How Many Attended Hatton-Collazo???...Hatton-Urango??...:dunno: Just Cause Hatton Did it 1nce,DOESN'T Make the Shit a Trend...

As for Floyd Talking,WHOgives a Fuck???...Fighters TALK Shit...Hatton TALKS Shit...That's what Prizefighters DO,MUZSE...

Floyd-Roy Comparisons R Only NATURAL...Prior to Floyd,the Last Guy to B UNIVERSALLY Recognized the Best N the World Lb 4 Lb was WHO??:dunno:

What Pisses REED Off is that Floyd has Accomplished MORE than Hatton & Cotto COMBINED...He has a BETTER RESUME than Either of them,as Well...

Yet Peeps R Sitting Here Almost DEMANDING that Floyd Give them PARITY @ the Negotiating Table???:dunno:

BULLSHIT...


REED

 

Simple economics and common sense indicate that this fight should take place overseas and at a catchweight with an even split or give Floyd 60/40 for traveling. We all know however though that Hatton will travel, Floyd WILL NOT and Floyd has to dictate the terms or he'll take his ball and go home and there will be no fight! If Calzaghe vs Manfredo could draw 35,000 against Manfredo overseas, I'm sure Hatton would outdraw that against a good name. The main problem here is Floyd's mind is bigger than Floyd and his fans support his stupidity.

 

I think for a big fight like Mayweather, there would be a lot of English fans flying across the Atlantic.

 

This is what Floyd should do (as should a lot of other talented fighters). Not worry about what other guys are making and stay realistic about his own worth and say "Give me X millions of dollars and I'll fight whoever". Because that's how good Floyd is, nobody is even close to him in talent, the only thing that is going to beat Floyd is father time or him going up to high in weight, this is my opinion and I could be wrong but that's how I feel.

He shouldn't worry about this fighter isn't worth that money or this guy can't talk money with me. Pick a number that is realistic and makes Floyd happy, pick anybody that public wants to see him fight, the public has to be realistic also in terms of size and then kick their ass and say NEXT. Do that for a minute and he may start to get an Oscar type of following.

 

Yesterday you were talking about how much you admired the fact that so many fans were so dedicated and would travel that far, now you hop on the Mayweather bus and reverse your decision and see it as overblown? ::

How many Floyd fans would travel to see him fight overseas? Not that he ever would however.

 

Yeah sign the contract. 98-2 in favour of Floyd but still.....just sign the f*ckin' contract Hatton!!!! :: Let's see who the chicken really is.

 

It goes without saying that Floyd's accomplished more than Hatton and Cotto. Only a fool would suggest otherwise.

The point is, shit or get off the pot. Retire or fight. Both of these guys spend more time talking about WHY a fight can't happen than making them happen.

Mayweather-Hatton wouldn't happen until next year at the earliest anyway. It's fairly obvious that Hatton-Malignaggi & Mayweather-Mosley is next on HBO's agenda.

Hatton and Mayweather should keep each other's names out of their respective mouths until there's a real shot at making the fight.

The paid attendance for Hatton-Collazo and Hatton-Urango would probably be very similar to Mayweather-Baldomir. Fromwhat I remember, Mayweather-Baldomir had an announced attendance of just over 9,000 and at least half of that was paper.

BTW...Hatton-Collazo...7,900, Hatton-Urango...8,000...How much was paper? Hard to say. But both fights clearly were filled with pro-Hatton people.

 

Question:

When Tyson went to Tokyo to fight Tubbs (or Douglas), how many Americans travelled to see him fight?

When Bruno came to America to fight Tyson, how many Brits travelled to see Bruno fight?

I'd like to get an answer to these questions...

 

What were the TICKET PRICES for that Fight???:dunno: ...

Nosebleed Seats???...Ringside Seats???...Lower Level???...

U CAN'T just Look @ the Amount of People N the Stands,U HAVE to Look @ the PRICE of the Tickets Themselves...

1 Nosebleed Seat N Vegas is Roughly $100...Ringside is about $1,000...REED GUARANTEES the Calzaghe-Manfredo Card WASN'T That Expensive...

A Hatton-Floyd Fight N Vegas would Probably DOUBLE the Nosebleed AND Ringside Rates...

Simple Economics...

Let REED Know the PRICE of the Tickets for that 35,000 Calzaghe-Manfredo Card & Holla Back...



REED

 

REED hasn't "Reversed" ANYTHING...

It IS Admirable the Sooooooo Many would Travel just to Watch Hatton Fight...

REED's Point is,that ISN'T the Norm...It's NOT a Trend...It Happend 1nce,thus Far...But Peeps R Acting like Hatton ALWAYS Brings 11,000 Brits w/Him...

NOT!!!:nono:

Just Cause Hatton Brought 11,000 Brits to ONE Fight,Doesn't Mean he Deserves PARITY w/Floyd...

THAT's REED's Point...


REED

 

I am SURE that 11,000 Americans didn't follow Tyson to Tokyo to either of the Douglas or Tubbs fights (peep my above questions)...but I don't think that ANYONE in their right mind would claim that hatton is a bigger draw than a prime Tyson.


The 11,000 drunken brits, is a SMOKESCREEN/RED HERRING. It means fairly little in the grand scheme of things.

REED, it's honestly not worth even entertaining in a discussion about who deserves the most money...

 

how exactly would the fight generate more money in england?

if its in the uk it completely fucks up the us ppv time slot and there is no casino site fee.

 

& How do We Know that Hatton HIMSELF didn't Purchase 11,000 Tickets to INSURE he'd have a Large British Presence...

How do we KNOW that 11,000 Brits Paid American Market Value for 11,000 Tickets???...


REED:dunno:

 

EXACTLY.

These people are MAD. U.S. has the 3rd largest population of any country in the world...as I said...SIX times more than Great Britain. That ALONE tells you that the fight would make more money in the States...and the fact that Floyd is better known in the States than is Hatton..is ALL we need to know about WHO shoudl make more money in this fight.

 

I doubt there would be that many fans coming to the u.s. later this year for mayweather hatton. for one they've already traveled here once (on summer vacation)..tickets will be much more expensive...some of hattons fans will be wise enough to know he's gonna lose, others won't be able to afford it. it would still sell out mgm tho

 

not true

what at least I have been saying is that until we actual hear his terms I don't believe Mayweather is actually going to entertain the thought of fighting Hatton period. It's an exageration but IMO considering how Floyd has been conducting himself post DLH and what he thinks he is worth a 75 25 split is not far off

 

$9.27?

::

 

REED is More FAIR-MINDED than Peeps Give him Credit for, Brother EANER...

As Such, Even REED can ADMIT that Floyd DOESN'T Deserve a 75/25 Split w/Hatton...60/40 MAX...55/45 @ WORST...

if,If,IF Floyd's BEST Offer to Hatton is 75/25,Floyd is Full of Shit...


REED

 

ok but considering how Floyd has gone on about his worth, what he wants, retirement you know he is not going to step and say "60/40 seems fair to get this done" right?

 

all fights have comps. so the fuck what. mayweather delahoya had comps. how exactly are you privvy to how many tickets were given away for certain fights? you act as though if hatton fought baldomir in vegas the shit would sell out or something. let's not even bring up your husband shane mosley. he couldn't sell 2000 tickets for a baldomir fight

 

Of course all fights have comps....

"however"

There's a HUGE difference between 1,000 comp seats and 4,000 comp seats.

Regarding I how I know this info...none of your business. The next time you see Floyd, ask him about the $450,000 tax lien against his Judah purse.

That's not an exaggeration nor made up number either...ask him about it and see what he says. ::

 

Is it true that Goossen Tutor lost a lot of money on the fight?

 

Let's hope it happens, I want to see Floyd against a fighter in his prime. We havent seen this in a long time. Theres alot of obstacles for this fight. Money and location comes to mind. Hatton is the real deal and we all know the man will go for broke and thats whats needed to beat Floyd. I feel Mayweather is going to be forced to fight back, Hatton is going to bring out the best in Floyd and we will find out what Floyd really has to offer. Last time I seen him dig deep was in the first Castillo fight.

Let's hope the fight is made.

 

There's strong precedence for British turning out en masse to support British fighters in the US, if the fight is big enough.

If Hatton's matched against a significant name - Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley - I think it's all but guaranteed there will be another huge British turnout...and I have to imagine the Vegas casinos would love to have that money in town.

 

you guys follow this sport for the soap opera aspect more so than the action in the ring. it is going to be an agonizing experience for you fellows when these fights are made and mayweather defeats hatton, mosley, and possibly cotto.

 

if they're good fights, it'll be an interesting ride and everyone is happy.

if the fights don't happen and Floyd continues to act like a bitch, you'll be the Kelly Ripa of this board.

Besides, talk about soap opera...Neil to Floyd is what Fighter is to Freitas.

 

oh great he went to the 'none of your business card' hahah

why would I ask such a thing? I don't give a fuck about the next man's finances. the guy is rich, that much is clear.