Loma 130, Marriaga 129.8

Agree with Reed that Loma vs Garcia is a 50:50 fight. Lomachenko looks astonishing but Garcia doesn't to much wrong either and he is deadly accurate and powerful

 

Yeah, if REED were Top Rank, he'd Need a Bit of a Rebate on the T.V. Time He Paid For...




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....and BIGGER...




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For sure. Loma has a very small frame. I see him topping out right at around 135.

 

agREED...

'30 Seems to Be Lomachenko's OPTIMAL Weight for Now, and as he Matures, '35...'40 is an Option, but REED Doesn't Like the Idea of Lomachenko Going STRAIGHT to '40...Maybe in a Couple Years...

Lomachenko's a BETTER Fighter than Terrance Crawford, but T.C.'s Length, Strength and Power Would Be HUGE Factors...




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I don't think Roy is the same level athlete as Loma. Loma's footwork, balance and reaction times are insane. Roy just had better hand speed than Loma.

Take the first kd last night. He lands a lead left, blocks the counter right while stepping around with another lead left.

Loma holds up on a purely athletic level against any athlete in any sport right now.

 

It sucks that this fight probably won't happen in the next year or so. If I could make any fight in boxing this is the one I would make. I want to see Loma in with another top pound for pound level fighter.

 

Vasyl Lomachenko is a VERY Athletic Fighter, but Roy Jones Was and Still IS the Top of the Food Chain, in that Regard...In HISTORY...It's NOT Even Debatable, and that's NO Slight on Lomachenko...

REED Agrees Lomachenko is Boxing's Most Athletic Fighter TODAY, but REED Would Suggest Revisiting Some Old Roy Videos, Cause CLEARLY You "Must've Forgot", Bruh...

Despite Being Larger, Roy's Handspeed is APPRECIABLY Better, Not just "Better"...And Roy's Reflexes and Reaction Times were AS Quick as his Hands Were...Roy Hit HARDER Too...

6-7 LANDED Left Hooks, in the Span of a Second or 2???...That's Not just GODLY Handspeed, that's ACCURACY...As Impressive and Improbable as Some of Lomachenko's Combo's Are, Has he Ever Dropped/Stopped a Guy w/an Uppercut-Left Hook-Left Hook SAME HAND Combination???...

Roy was Sooooooooooooooo ATHLETIC, he Rarely Jabbed...It Wasn't that he Couldn't Jab, it was that he DIDN'T Have To Jab...Andre Ward's Career was Nearly Derailed in the Prospect Phase, Trying to Replicate Roy Jones' Style of Fighting...

Lomachenko Gets MORE Out of his Footwork, Undoubtedly, but it's Not Like BALANCE and TORQUE were Ever Issues for Roy Either...

Lomachenko's More SKILLED and POLISHED than Roy, but NofuckingWay is he More ATHLETIC...




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Hopefully, Lomachenko Wants it Soooooooooooooo BAD, he Forces Arum's Hand...





REED

 

Yeah, Roy Jones is the most athletic succesful fighter ever. Naseem Hamed might have been close to him but there is a clear difference to Lomachenko and as Reed said, that is no slight on him.

What makes Lomachenko special is his combination of athletic talent and technical skill. That combination is very rare, Floyd-esque actually

 

the thing is the money for each guy. i doubt they can pay both a few million on what ESPN is ponying up. so then it would need to be PPV. how many ppvs do you think this would sell, realistically ?

 

Loma hands are not that impressive. Rj was much faster and sharper.

His footwork is beyond insane though. Really something else. Hes doing some things ive never seen before. But, for all of this, he does get hit a bit more than you would think. I want to see him against a hard determined puncher to see how he would react

 

He does get hit but he is also much more aggressive fighter than most technically skilled guys. If he pulled a Floyd, with that footwork he would be near-unhittable.

I think his biggest weakness is the lack of punch, which is bit weird since he roared through the competition in the Olympics '08 but not in '12. That edge gives Garcia a solid chance against him

 

yeah, we already talked about it. He was much more explosive in the 08 olympics. I think he might have hand problems

 

Mikey is truly excellent and he impressed me greatly the other week. The thing about him though is he tends to move in straight lines, Loma's footwork could really take advantage of that if (and it's obviously a big if) he can withstand the incoming.

 

Potentially a TOUGH Sell, for Sure...

The WINNER of this Bout Would Undoubtedly BECOME a Viable PPV Entity, but it's Hard to Determine their True Market VALUE Right Now...

Hopefully, Beating Broner ENHANCES Mikey's Appeal, Especially w/Mexican Fight Fans...

Had ESPN Not SHUNNED Boxing for the NFL Hall of Fame Inductions, Lomachenko Would've SHINED in Front of Casual Fans, Who'd Go Out of their Way to Watch his Ensuing Bouts...

TIMING is Everything, When it Comes to Building a FanBase...Errol Spence BENEFITTED from Fighting Leonard Bundu IMMEDIATELY After the U.S. Olympic Basketball Team's Gold Medal Game...Last Night was a GOLDEN Opportunity to Showcase WHO Lomachenko Was and WHY Casuals Should Give a Fuck about Him...

No Doubt, Arum Will Try to Sabotage the Fight, Probably INSISTING Lomachenko Assume the "A-Side" of the Promotion...Instead of HBO or Showtime, REED Thinks ESPN Would Be the PERFECT Network for a Fight of this Ilk...But Like You Said, Can they PAY the Guys Enough???...

Per Reports, Lomachenko Made 750K Last Night, w/Mikey Making a Mil vs. Broner...This Being the Case, REED Thinks 1.5mil Apiece is FAIR, but it's Easy to Deem What's "Fair" w/OTHER Motherfuckers Money...

To Answer Your Question (Finally), REED Thinks a Lomachenko-Garcia PPV Would Do 200,000 Buys, or a Tad More...


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Wait, what happened during the broadcast? Obviously watching from the UK so didn't know about any of that.

 

When American Audiences Turned to ESPN @ 9pm CST, for the Scheduled and (Heavily) HYPED Broadcast of the Lomachenko-Marriaga Fight Card, What we Saw Instead was the NFL Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony, Already in Progress (Which Went Waaaaaaaaaaaaay OVER their Alotted Time)...

Having Experienced This Before, HARDOCORE Boxing Fans Like REED, Doub and Others Scrolled thru the Various ESPN Stations, Finally Finding the Live Broadcast...REED Watched the 2 Preceding Bouts en Espanol, on ESPN Deportes...

Maybe 2 Hours Into the Broadcast, the Card Switched Over to Regular ESPN, Which SHOULD have Been Showing the Card All the While...

No Harm on the Surface, but REED GUARANfuckingTEES Thousands of CASUAL Fans Tuned In @ the Scheduled Time, Saw the Hall of Fame Induction Instead, and Found Something ELSE to Watch Last Night, When they were EXPECTING to See Lomachenko...




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He doesn't get hit all that much especially cleanly. It's amazing how good he is at defending while being so aggressive.

Not to mention I watched the fight again today and just watched Marriaga. The entire fight he was in desperation mode, out of position and off balance.

It's amazing to see Loma's footwork and positioning. He is in position for everything while his opponent his opponent has no idea what to do.

3 no mas's in a row has to be a record in title fight wins.

 

I think Mikey's become a bit overrated since last week. Beating Broner in 2017 isn't a big accomplishment.

Loma will outclass Mikey. The guy is a generational talent.

 

Personally, the Broner Win Didn't Change REED's Opinion of Mikey, it CONFIRMED REED's Opinion of Mikey...

REED Thinks you're Underrating Mikey, if You Genuinely Believe Lomachenko Will "OutClass" Him...To Do That, a Fighter Has to Be CONSIDERABLY BETTER Than his Opponent and REED Doesn't See That Being the Case Here, for Either Fighter...

Lomachenko's Quicker, More Athletic, Better Footwork, Higher Workrate...But Mikey's Jab, His Hard, Accurate Counters, Timing, Size and Ring IQ are Quite Formidable...

Don't Sleeeeeep, Bruh...It's a TRUE 50-50 Fight and NO Outcome Would Surprise REED...




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I don't feel I'm underrating Mikey, cause I'm not doubting he's an excellent fighter. Probably the most offensively gifted fighter in the sport currently... top 3, at worst.

But Loma looks like a "special" fighter. He looks like the next in line of boxing virtousos. Whitaker passed that title onto Roy, then Roy passed it onto Floyd... Loma might be the next in that line.

Those picking Mikey have to be banking on a Garcia stoppage. Cause it's hard to envision Mikey outboxing Loma.

 

lomachenko only got hit a handful of times vs marriaga and was busted up underneath both eyes. garcia will land shots and do damage

 

yeah, but he got hit with a good headbut and it messed one of his eye.

Loma was magical yesterday, but i don't think Mikey will let Loma come in and out like that without standing his ground and throwing some bombs. It will be very interesting to see how he react when he gets hit

 

I still think that Loma would have a lot of trouble against a good inside fighter who throws a lot of punches and doesnt mind getting hit (a la salido)

 

Ye tru dat, we saw some evidence of this against that puerto rican trailer trash who's name escapes me... the simian.

 

If Lomachenko Can't NEUTRALIZE Mikey's Jab (Which No One Has Done to Date), that's ENTIRELY Possible...




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Would it sail over Reed's head to suggest that on the very fringe of his opponents range, Mikey possesses a .....frog's tongue, perhaps?..

 

REED Gets THAT Reference Completely, Kauki...

REED Was Thinking Garcia Attacked in Quick, Sudden, Reptilian Fashion, but the Swiftness of a 's Tongue is Another Good Analogy...

Mikey Will NEVER "Wow" Anybody, Athletically, but there's Definitely UNDER RATED Speed in the Delivery of his Shots...Having a Somewhat MEASURED Workrate Enhances the SUDDENESS of his Attacks...

When he Blasts, he BLASTS...

REED

 

Lomachenkos eye had a mouse under it before he got butted. His other eye had a mouse too