Mayweather vs. Hatton 24/7

Does Sly despise Floyd?

 

Is Sly a Mosley fanatic?

 

Was Floyd Sr really a bad father?

There are two sides to the coin. Pros and cons.

Cons: He was involved with drugs, got in trouble with the law. Was not there for him from 16(18?) to 23 years of age. Was father but I guess according to Floyd never a Dad.

Pros: Provided his son with an insight and a FOUNDATION to a career that has financially secured Floyd and his family for generations to come. Showed him the hardwork, sculpting his body for sustaining and dishing out punishment, sacrifices like passing up parties, eating candy. Showed him discipline. Yes and at times FORCED IT UPON him.

I think when you dedicate your whole life to achieve something that is hard, there will be times of complaining. The opportunity cost of wanting to do something else while having the STRAIN and stress of pushing yourself to the limit.

 

Buncha fuckin' liars, the lotta ya's!

One simple question - anything different on Floyd than from the 1st series?

First statement right out the box: "Mayweather isn't my real name, we had it changed when I was a baby. It was Sinclair."

Or did everyone miss the first three minutes of the show? ::

 

Floyd SinClair....gangsta....:nono:..Mayweather always been a sissy....SinClair...::

 

I knew a few cats named Sinclair, but all of them were Jamaican.

 

Money Sinclair. :bears:

 

:nono: ... $$$inclair

 

Damn, that IS gangsta.

 

::

 

OK finally finished watching...

not sure what the rest of you's got out of it, saying it was the same old bullshit from Floyd. I thought there was more substance in this one episode than in all four of the Floyd-GLH shows combined.

Yes, the Floyd-as-a-villian stuff is a little old, but the stuff about he and his pops was deep, and well-captured. Floyd NEVER wants to talk about family drama, always going on the defensive (and rightfully so) whenever reports bring it up. Ths was the deepest he ever went into that - and NONE of it felt forced, as opposed to his "the world can't fuck with me" schtick.

Was also nice to see HBO touch on his relationship with his kids. Last time it was limited to Floyd making his son watch AI just because he had a lot of money on the game, while they saved most of the family angle for Oscar and his alleged perfect life as a husband and father

The yes-men being featured was annoying, I agree, but hardly on long enough to affect the show in any way.

Not sure why people expressed hate on Ellerbe. IMO, he reflects the little stability Mayweather has in his life.

The Hatton stuff was solid, you got real responses out of him and his unvarnished trainer Billy Graham. That was to be expected, though, everyone knew going in there was far more substance to Hatton than Oscar could ever hope to have.

All in all, I thought it was a great episode. I had a hard time getting into the first 24/7 series, mostly due to the hard sell on Oscar. This one, both sides were well-portrayed, none of it felt forced, and it had a true boxing feel. Can't wait for next week's show. :bears:

 

Don't get me wrong.. I loved the episode too.

 

Stop your whining and snobbery, Jake. We've obviously heard before what is now news to you.



:: :: :tease:

Nah, just kidding. Actually, I didn't watch all of Mayweather-DLH 24/7 so I couldn't tell you what was new or not.

I was just reacting to the fact that it seemed like the same ol' Mayweather.

Peace.

 

It was actually to the thread as a whole. The way everyone was talking, I expected the opening sequence to be the sequel to "Yep" ::

 

:laughing:

"There's only oooooooooone....Mayweatheeeeeeeeeeer....."

 

I agree PBF's behavior is kinda tiring. However, that still does not prevent me from being a fan of his. Like I've stated I'm a fan of an athlete by what they do in the ring, on the gridiron, the hoop court, or the diamond. By the way why didn't they show any footage of Hatton doing his wrestling/grappling. He has to work on that shit during training camp. I'll Holla 5000

 

Good point, that. ::

 

dsimon writes:

It might be an exerscize in compassion to note that no matter how much money one makes they cannot replace damage done from not having a loving family around. I think Floyd catches a lot of flak when you consider his dad was/is a selfish sociopathic near do well and his mom was not around.... and he is what 30? very young, still a kid in some respects. He is brash and needs to learn how to respect women but that had to be a rough way to be raised up and look at his role models.

The other thing is that Floyd responds to parenting/authority to some degree. Roger is very good with him and floyd respectful of roger. Floyd just does not let his dad slip into that role and why the fuck should he? But I think that it actually shows that Floyd has some good and humility in him that he respects Roger and that he responds to the adults who have coached him and shaped his career. People need to give him a little more credit in that regard.

Floyd is impish... he likes negative attention because probably that is the kind of attention he is used too. But he can be hillarious that way When he comes into the ring with a sombrero for example.



Richard Pryer, who metamuze may have inadvertently mischarcterized, by all accounts was adored as a kid. Those women of the night really looked after him and it alway showed with Richard. For all his bravado he had old school respect for his elders. He actually acquiesed to Milton Berle when Berle chewed him out and he didn't have to listen to that old Jewish man!!::

People just love to talk about Floyd being so this and that... I don't think he is that bad. You can tell that he bothers Rickey half the time because he wants Rickey to talk to him.:: I used to be that way as a kid I gues I can relate in that respect. :: And Ricky is a great sport about it btw. His crack about Floyd being the other six year old when he was missing his son made me shoot milk out of my nose, fucking hillarious

 

Floyd is a grown man who acts the way he wants to act. I can't feel sorry for him. :dunno:

How old until somebody grows up? :dunno: I think it's more about that's who he is and will be not so much that he is inmature.

I am also a huge fan of his because of his skill in the ring. But his attitue can be a little annoying. Like some said he tries to be funny and play the bad boy role. :doh:

 

damn

everyone in Hatton's corner has a very faggy accent :shit:

 

I LOVE Richard Pryor...grew up listening to the albums and 8 tracks my pops had...

"However"

Richard was one fucked up dude which is why he suffered from years of depression and drug use (remember when he set himself on fire? How much of a fucked up junkie do you have to be to set YOURSELF on fire???). I suggest you watch "JoJo Dancer: Your Life Is Calling" 95% of that shit it true. It's got to fuck with your pysche when you're raised by your grandmother in a whorehouse and your moms is one of the whores.

Richard was a comedic genius who made it as long as he did because he used the stage as therapy. From my perspective, being loved by whores as a child isn't an ideal way to grow up.

As far as Mayweather goes, it'll be interesting how he puts himself back together once he loses a fight.

 

Sure, but not even close to being as irritating as an Aussie accent.

 

You're dead right there - the Australian accent has to be 'The G.O.A.T' when it comes to twatty accents belonging to uncultured arseholes.

Even hearing one makes me want to go out and smash fuck out of any Aussie that crosses my path.

 

I feel exactly the same way. The Australian accent is a vile piece of sewage of an accent.

"Gday mite, yih, raaght, ahm frum ooostralia, yih, mite, ahm uh raaght eediot yih, reehly thick yih, ar beerly got thri bran cills to rab tergetha mite."

One of the funniest things I've ever seen was my step uncle laying out 2 Aussies in putney. He is a 6'3 hard bastard. A drunk australian sitting on the adjacent table took the liberty of simply taking a cigarette from his pack without asking.

My uncle asked what the fuck are you doing? And the Australian replied "Oh sorry mite, that's what we do in my country". And my uncle said you're not in your fucking country now, you're in my country. The Aussie started to get lippy, so my uncle picked him up, nutted him hardcore, and his face just fucking exploded ::

 

Australian women are tougher than their men anyways. :dunno:

 

How about the indian accent?

 

The Indian accent is humourous, comical. Far less offensive and annoying than the Aussie accent.

 

dsimon writes:

He plays this role because people give him attention. But people often exxagerate his behavoir. In society it is sort of arbitrary what we consider a grown man. In Medieval Europe kids were painted in paintings to look like little adults because they were perceived as such. In our society many people live like kids until they are in the second part of their life span (40,s). Floyd is a bit immature, but hot unusual in this regard.

 

Mustard and Mex Wed Shirt...

The more you guys comment the more you confirm that you're exactly the kind of fuckers that I hated when I lived in England. ::

Wankers the pair of ya!:warning:

 

dsimon writes:

Richard is one of my favorite people as well MM. People become junkies for a lot of reasons, one is a very tolerant ideas about drug use, certain predestined behavoir traits, and working in occupations where drugs and money is easily available. I assure you that these factors were more responsible for Pryer's drug use than the fact that the women looking after him were sex workers. I did see Jo Jo dancer as well and Richard's depression and his illness were not necessarily the product of his upbringing. Actually it is common for Multiple Schlerosis suffers to have depression

Families seldom function in and under ideal circumstances muse.... you know that::. Yes it wasn't an ideal situation but just because the women were prostitutes, just because Richards situation was taboo and just because a whore house is a rough environment with violence does not mean he was not raised up in a loving environment. The fact is he had a lot of strong women around, including his grandma and this put him in a lot better situation than somoene like Floyd if no loving female role models were around.

Families by their very nature are dysfunctional I would rather my kids were raised by a loving mother who is a sex worker (actually my wife was a stripper so I can say this with absolute certainty ::) than a mother with a perfect career who either was not around, or who was incapable of showing love and affection. People tend on average to be a lot more fucked up when the mother was cold, did not show any love, or neglected the kid than virtually any other situation. One can say what they want about Richard in this regard but he was known to be an affectionate guy and he credited some of these traits to the women who looked after him.