Mexican fraud vs Mexican fraud: Predictions?

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  1. Bordon

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    GGG needs a real boxing insider like REED handling his career. He would've landed the Bute fight a long time ago.
     
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    Based on Golovkin's Sales (or LACK Thereof) as a PPV Headliner, it's Certainly NOT Out of the Realm of Possibility that he Accepted the Flat Fee...

    It's All about LEVERAGE, Neil...Triple G ESCAPED w/his Record Intact, in his Last Fight, AND his 2 PPV's Produced Shitty Ass Sales...FACT!!!...

    Based On That, he Had NOfuckingCHOICE but to Jump on Canelo's Offer, Because if he Hadn't, the Boxing Public Would've Demanded a RE w/Jacobs...

    GGG LACKED Leverage, Period...Not Sure HOW it Can Be Viewed Any Other Way, Unless you TRULY Believe MSG Merchandising Records Means Shit During a Big Fight Negotiation...

    Golovkin GAMBLED On his Own Worth as a Draw, Learned that he ISN'T a Draw, and That Brings Us to September 16th Finally Being agREED Upon...






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  3. Bordon

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    It seems plain to anybody with any objective reasoning that Canelo and Golden Boy were waiting for signs of the older fighter slowing down and they saw it against Brook and Jacobs.

    The idea that GGG has been the one playing politics is some Floyd-pac fanboy style nonsense. You hurt boxing by pretending to be dumb enough to fall for it to defend and attack fighters you like or don't like.
     
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    If REED were in the Mix, the Motherfucker WOULDN'T Be Halfway to 36 @ the Time of the 1st BIG Fight of his Career, That's for Damn Sure...

    Surprised to "See" You in a Middleweight Thread, Twerp...Shouldn't You Be In Your Mother's Basement,PLEASURING YOURSELF to Obscure, Asian Diaperweight Videos???...



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  5. Bordon

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    What "big" fight would you have guided him too at 168, Reed? Fill up a Swedish arena against Badou Jack? Panhandle change to come up with the Andre Wards purse?

    Shouldn't you be trying too hard to be a black guy because you have fat white wife?
     
  6. Neil

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    it seems pretty clear golovkins team made the correct decision in staying at 160 and waiting for the alvarez fight. you know, the biggest fight in all of boxing? hard to dispute that. now that it is happening we have reed here spinning things to make us believe it was golovkins fault it took so long for the fight to occur :emoji_smile:
     
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    EVERY Post of Yours Reverts to Some Non-Existent Ass BIAS You CHILDISHLY Attempt to Project on REED, Dude...

    And the Shit is LAME as Fuck...If You REALLY Want to Know REED's Biases, Simply ASK Him...

    Anyways, Had Triple G CALLED CANELO'S BLUFF on the Catchweight, Which REED Suggested He Do MANY Times on this Site, we'd ALL Know for Certain if Canelo-Golden Boy were Playing the Waiting Game or the Weighting Game...

    But As Is, and For All Your PSEUDO "Objective Reasoning", You're GUESSING Just Like Everybody Else...





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    And There it Is...

    Clearly, You Came to TROLL, Not to Discuss Boxing, Because Above 112lbs, You're OUT of Your Depths when it Comes to Debating this Sport...

    As You Were, Scrub...






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    REED Ain't Spinning Shit...

    REED's Merely Pointing Out This Fight COULD Have Happened Sooooooner than September 16th, 2017...

    How "Correct" Would Team Golovkin's Decision Making Look Had he LOST or DREW w/Jacobs (Which he FLIRTED w/Doing)...If You Honestly Think the Jacobs Fight DIDN'T Spook Team Golovkin into Coming to Terms w/Team Canelo, You're LYING To Yourself...







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  10. Neil

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    Reed do you seriously beleive this fight would be happening at all if golovkin kod jacobs in 3 rounds?
     
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    Put it This Way...

    REED's a Fan of Canelo, Nonetheless, DURING the Chavez Jr Fight, REED Voiced his Displeasure w/Canelo FAILING to Take On a Legitimate Threat for the 3rd Consecutive Bout...

    In the Moment, REED Basically Said "Enough is Enough, Fight Triple G Next"...REED Has No Doubt Other Canelo Fans had Similar Thoughts, and Bear in Mind This was PRIOR to the Announcement of the Fight Being Signed for September 16th...

    REED Doesn't Think Canelo Could Have Afforded to Eschew GGG Much Loooooooonger...It Comes to a Point Where You're BULLSHITTING the Boxing Public, a Point Canelo Would Have Reached, Had the Bout NOT Been Finalized...







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    It's a serious question. What big fights were at 168 and how do they make more sense than fighting Canelo?
     
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    So was Canelo "eschewing" the fight or was GGG ducking him? Even you don't believe the bullshit you're talking.
     
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    I Actually agree with Neils sentiments and said as much earlier when I pointed out that Danny Jacobs made this fight happen.
     
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    Golovkin Could've EASILY Forced a Beltholder @ '68 into a Catchweight, Since he'd Be the "Draw" in that Instance...

    Any of Those Bouts Would'v Been BIGGER and More MEANINGFUL Fights than GGG-Wade/Monroe...By the Time Triple G Had a Belt @ '68, Ward Would HAVE to Play Along, Sacrificing Money and/or a Catchweight...

    Duly Note, @ NO Point Did REED Suggest Golovkin ABANDON Middleweight Altogether; he Proposed Golovkin Occupy His time on Something BETTER than Wade/Monroe, as he Awaited Canelo...






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    It's Only "Bullshit" to the Simple Minded, Who are Incapable of Seeing the BIGGER Picture...

    When Canelo Faced Floyd, it was @ a Catchweight...When Canelo Faced Cotto, it was @ a Catchweight...Golovkin was WILLING to Face Floyd @ '54 and Offered Ward a Catchweight of '64...These are Called FACTS...

    People Act as if Canelo Pulled Catchweights OUT of his Ass...Had Triple G Called Canelo's Bluff on a Catchweight, we'd Have Learned for CERTAIN if Canelo was Ducking Him or Not...

    Triple G Wasn't Ducking Canelo, Obviously, but he WAS Guilty of Overestimating his Own Worth, Which Lead to 2 Lukewarm PPV's as the Headliner, and a Near LOSS to Jacobs...







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  17. Bordon

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    Who is this Beltholder fellow? Does he have a first name?
     
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    is golovkin really a bigger draw than degale is in England? dunno about that. i am pretty sure badou jack wasnt gonna drop any weight. he has already said he is goin up to 175
     
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    GGG-DeGale Would've Done Good Business in Europe, w/Triple G Dictating ALL of the Terms...GGG-Badou Jack Would've Been an INFINITELY More Meaningful Fight than Monroe or Wade or Murray or Rubio...As Would a Title Fight vs. Anthony Dirrell...

    And Again, Having ANY '68 Strap Would've STRENGTHENED Golovkin's Leverage for a Ward Negotiation, Where he Could've Likely Lured him into a Unification Bout @ a Catchweight...

    All the While, ENHANCING his Status (& Leverage) as Canelo Played the Weighting Game...






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    Golovkin Would've Represented THE Biggest Purse of Jack's Career, by a Sizable Margin...In 2015-2016, there's NOfuckingDOUBT He'd have Obliged Any Catchweight Triple G Wanted...





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    these guys are bigger but not necessarily better opponents. i dont really think any of the golovkin detractors will suddenly anoint him the goods because he beat badou jack at 164lbs
     
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    Beating Jack and ADDING a World Title @ '68 to the List of Accomplishments Would've Been BETTER for Triple G's Legacy than Fights w/Rubio, Murray, Wade or Monroe...





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    marginally, maybe. certainly better than wade, who flat out SUCKS. i dont really consider jack much if any better than murray. jack didnt even hold a title when golovkin fought murray or rubio and had barely won it a few weeks before the monroe fight.
     
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    So he should've moved up in weight to fight Jack so he could move up in weight again to fight a bigger better opponent than Canelo in Ward for a fraction of what he'll make against Canelo?

    Gee, I dunno Reed. This sorta sounds like a scam to protect the guy that lost to your old barber shop hero and give a boost to your new barber shop hero...
     
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    Lol at jack barely being better than murray. Huge lol. know transposition doesnt always work in boxing, but jack clearly beat groves who gave a whoooping to murray, and through his career clearly beat much better fighters than murray has. But then, it's neil, so we shouldn't expect much logic nor knowledge
     
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    That's the Problem w/You, Twerp...

    You're Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Toooooooooo Caught Up in Being a Fucking DICK, Instead of Just Debating...On Cue, Instead of REEDing REED's Posts in their Entirety, You SKIM what's Written and Respond w/a Dyslexic Cliff Notes Version of what REED Actually TYPED...

    "Barbershop Heroes" and Such???:rolleyes:...You DON'T Know REED, Bruh, So You're WASTING Your Fucking Time Trying to PEG Him or EXPOSE Any Biases You Perceive...Move the Fuck Onwards w/that Bullshit...Believe it or Not, Some Boxing Fans Can Actually Comment on the Sport WITHOUT Bias, Even if That's Beyond YOUR Sorry Bitch Ass...

    When EXACTLY Did REED Speak of Triple G Moving Up 2wice???...Where???...Did You MISS the Part Where REED Noted Jack Being a Champion Since 2015???...Tooooo Busy Concocting Your Next Insult to Have CAUGHT That One, Huh???...

    Hell, Ward Sat Out ALL of 2014 and Half of 2015, Based on Promotional Issues and HBO's Inability to Get Him and Golovkin to Share a Boxing Ring...And When Ward Returned, he Weighed LESS than 172 for his Return Lightheavy Fight...

    You Don't Think There was Time for GGG-Ward @ '68, or Slightly Less???...






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    I have to agree with REED about Triple G overestimating his own marketability. Golovkin' steam tried hard to make him a star and the numbers just don't suggest that he was. Those two pay per view fights were flops.

    It's for that reason that they kept rejecting the flat fee of 15 million. I think Golovkin's team realized time was running low and that they were never in any position to negotiate for a better deal than the one that was offered.

    All that said, I hope Golovkin whips the Ginger's ass. And I suspect he will win.
     
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    Why would Golovkin fight LH's at a catchweight for a fraction of what he would make defending his MW title against his #1 contender?
     

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