One myth about Canelo that needs to die asap...

I rate him higher than I originally did. I thought relatively little of him a few years ago.

When people talked about him in the years leading up to the Mayweather fight, I remember thinking "THIS is the guy that people talk about being boxing's future??" and laughing at the notion that he would be a serious challenge to Mayweather, even with the size advantage.

He has improved since then, he's a good fighter with solid skills. However, he has glaring weaknesses in stamina, foot speed, and modest power which I figure would hurt him in fights. I think those weaknesses are mainly the issues that cost him the GGG fight, although the judges didn't think so.

 

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I think more of us "boxing snobs" would respect the guy if he wasn't so fucking overrated, and he didn't get so many gifts.

Trout got screwed. Lara got screwed. Golov got screwed. Hell, they TRIED to screw your boy!

Take away the corrupt judging, and Canelo has 3 losses. Lara outboxed him and deserved to win, and Golov outboxed him more clearly than Lara did. Maybe even 4 losses, if Trout wasn't fucked over by opening scoring and didn't have to alter his game plan.

He's not a bad fighter. He has offensive skill, and yes, he has a tough chin. But beyond that, my God he's overrated and my God he's protected by judging!

 

Yeah but X and MWS...be men enough to admit that you underrated him far worse than anyone overrated him. I mean y'all acted as though it would be a mismatch and that he'd be dominated butchered and stopped. I was faaaaaaaar closer in my estimation of how the fight would go than you haters were

 

No, you really weren't, because you predicted that Canelo would outbox him. The opposite occured. The one thing us haters perhaps underrated was his chin, but you severely OVERRATED his skills and refuse to admit as much.

My prediction wasn't that far off. I said from the JUMP that if Golov didn't stop him, he'd get fucked outta a deserved win. And that's exactly what happened.

 

Torres had a good knockout record and his fight with Cotto obviously proves there was legit power there, but he was limited as hell. And as Cdogg pointed out, had fought nobody prior.

 

I'm still looking for REASONS to give Canelo more than a few rounds. He really fought to survive for the most part. And when he did land, I didn't see a serious effect on Golovkin. But Triple G's power clearly bothered Canelo. If he'd only have thrown more hooks and uppercuts inside and gone to the body, he'd have done more damage.

 

Well, yeah me and X obviously underrated him a bit, he is tougher with better defense than we credited him for, given he lasted the distance.

But overall he's still overrated. I mean, he was almost even money by fight night, most pro fighters were picking him, and after the fight most press scored it 8-4 Golovkin, and every pro fighter thinks Golovkin won.

 

Corley hurt him on the temple. No chin involved in that near-disaster bout.

Torres did landed on the point of his chin.

 

Lol, it's obvious torres had huge power. Showed it against Holt also

 

Torres became a champion after Cotto vacated the title. He retired with a record of 33-02 (29 KO). He was indeed a vicious puncher.

 

Lara never got screwed, was close as hell and there's an argument that he lost the fight by being so passive. And I can't say Trot got screwed either. It was a pretty clear win for Canelo, and I was rooting for Trout

 

He stopped Holt in their first bout, didn't he?

 

stoppage was terrible, but he dropped him hard with one punch

 

Agreed with both

 

Even as a Canelo hater, I'd say Canelo Vs Trout and Lara could have gone either way. He was "lucky" to get the decision in both, but I couldn't call either one a robbery.

Unsurprisingly though, in two close fights, one judge had Canelo winning 9 rounds against Lara, and one had him winning 10 rounds against Trout.

The most overprotected fighter in boxing by far, bought judges every time.

 

I had Lara winning a clear 7-5 over Canelo. I thought at BEST Ginger got a draw. I'd really struggle to find 7 rounds that Canelo won in that fight.

I had Canelo beating Trout 7-5, but make no mistake, Trout WAS screwed. By that goddamn open scoring.

 

but then, no offense , but you're pretty much biaised when it comes to Canelo

 

I feel exactly the same way. I originally thought he was just a hype job that would be badly exposed. It's clear that he is now an elite fighter, and imo does look quite a bit better than he did 4 years ago.

Still, he is still somewhat overrated for exactly the reason I stated. Many people - including most pro fighters - thought he'd beat Golovkin, and he didn't. Those same people think Golovkin won clearly, so on that basis alone, he's obviously not as good as people thought.

 

I thought Lara clearly won against Canelo.

Saying that, Alvarez is much better than I gave him credit for. I always rated his combination punching, but his defence is much better than I thought. I didn't really know where to rate his chin as he hadn't fought any massive hitters and was wobbled a bit by Cotton's bro, but I think it's pretty clear now he can take a shot. The chin is solid. The power is good, he hits hard but he's a not an elite puncher. The stamina is still shite, as I always figured. I agree with those who say if he had the stamina to throw for 3 minutes a round he would justify the hype, as his offensive talent is legit.