Shoulder pain

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  1. Barristan

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    I used to only get it by using the fly machine so I haven't used it for years. Now when I do shoulder presses or any upper body movement for that matter my shoulders are killing me. Anyone ever have shoulder pain? How did you get rid of it?
     
  2. Buddy Rydell

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    It could be your rotator cuff. I'm going through a similar issue right now. What happens is the rotator cuff muscles loosen and rub on nerves and connective tissue, causing a lot of pain. You probably need to tighten them by doing a few different rotator cuff raise exercises.

    Here's a couple of vids that might help you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXcMLaTF5o&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOxVjVQMeZc&feature=related

    The second vid has all three rotator cuff exercises that you should do to rehab your shoulders before you use heavy weight. I would stay away from heavy weight for 2-3 weeks, dude.
     
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    thanks man im going to try those excercises
     
  4. LOK

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    like buddy said, rotator cuff..

    i hurt mine years ago benching..

    i do mainly bodyweight stuff now and dont have a problem..

    if you lay on your side and use a VERY light weight and rotate it up and out.. that could help.. also some IB etc.. anti-inflamatory..

    if it's really bad go to the doc..

    if it mildly hurts.. take some ibuprofen for a couple days, rest it.. then work it slowly
     
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    For some reason my shoulder particularly hurt if I use a fly machine after doing biceps.

    It doesn't help that I've dislocated my left shoulder twice in two years.

    Rotator cuff is the normal culprit though.
     
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  6. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    All the above posts are pretty much right.
    Depending on how much pain you have would determine if its a rotator cuff tendonitis or impingement syndrome[/] or a tear.
    If it hurts when you lift your arm above your shoulder, then its one of the above.

    I thought I had a similar problem in October - but my pain came at night when I was in bed and I either a) lay on my side of the shoulder with the pain or b) lay on my front in bed.

    I went to the Doctor and he said it's more like a general strain of that shoulder area. So, I cut out all lifting for 6 weeks.
    On my return I did the excersises Buddy and LOK listed above.

    My problem was that I had not been doing enough weight training to my front, upper and especially rear deltoid muscles...
     
  7. Buddy Rydell

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    Chinups, pullups, and all manner of pulling exercises can help fix that muscle imbalance caused by people having strong anterior deltoids and comparatively weak posterior deltoids.
     
  8. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Yes. But I want to strengthen that actual muscle by isolation before I even attempt pullups.
    I can only manage 65kg doing 4 sets of 8 reps on the lat-pulldown machine right now, so Im pretty sure I can't pullup my own bodyweight of 92kg!
     
  9. LOK

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    I exercise my cock so it doesn't hurt
     
  10. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    What about Federer? He needs to excersise the 'Swiss-Snake' more often...
     
  11. Buddy Rydell

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    You can get around that. You can use a weight-assisted pullup machine. Heck, if you have a pulldown machine at home and some rope, you can create a contraption that allows you to do assisted one-arm chins by having a counterweight. I did that 3 years ago and was doing assisted one-arm chins, decreasing the counterweight until I got within 50lbs of a one-arm chinup at a bodyweight of 205.
     
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    It's really hard to isolate rear-delts, but pullups with your feet on a bench combined with bent over laterals or reverse pec deck flyes would be great supersets to hit rear delts. The problem is that your back muscles tend to take over when you try to isolate rear delts. Mine have grown best by doing a lot of chins and pulls, but that's just anecdotal.

    When I tried to isolate my rear delts, my upper back and trapezius muscles wound up taking over. The only way for me to develop my rear delts (and they were shitty) was to do tons of chins and pullups of every kind.

    Reverse rows, where you have your heels on the ground or on a bench and you pull your upperbody up to a bar mounted just above waist height on a squat rack, work your rear delts well when supersetted with bent over laterals.
     
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    No such machine at my 'gym'
    If I want to do chinups or pullups, I have to use a smith-machine, with the main bar locked at its max. height of just over 8ft.
    :dunno:

    I think I'll have to buy one of those portable pullup bars that you attach to the doorframe or opening of a loft/attic.
     
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    swiss snake should always beat the spanish weasle
     
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    My shoulder flared up a bit last night. I just can't do seated dumbbell presses. Overhead presses are better because they involve more of the upper chest.
     
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    I thought they were the same, only the latter is with a barbell/smith-machine?
     
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    The big difference is between the barbell and dumbbells. Plus, I lean a bit back when I do overhead push presses. More of my upper chest gets utilized.
     
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    i do handstand pushups more than pressing.. but that's how i like to roll
     
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    I've recently heard about people claiming shark cartilage is good for joint injuries including shoulders. I might have to give it a try.
     
  20. LOK

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    Funny Buddy, I was just talking about that..

    one of my good friends is the dietitian for the michael johnson performance center and i asked them about it.. the main view is it's BS
     
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    Rested my shoulders this pas week, and today I had no problem with bench or incline for chest. I'm gonna try to work shoulders and chest on the same day to save my shoulders for the rest of the week.

    I feel good.
     
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    Woo-hoo! Shoulders did fine at the gym. I just have to work shoulders and chest on the same day and I'm fine.
     
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    Best Shoulder Exercises to relief your pain
    • Barbell Standing Press
    • Arnold Press
    • Side Delt Raises
    • One-Arm Cable Raise
    • Upright Row Shoulder Exercise
    • Front Raises Exercise
    • Rear Delt Dumbbell Fly
    • Incline Bench Press
    • Dumbbell Shrug
     

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