Spence vs Mayweather, now.

More of a risk than undefeated big strong rising star Canelo at 154lbs?

 

minimally more risk at best, for triple the reward if not more.

 

Well, ON TOP of the fact that Canelo was a light years bigger money fight... the Spence of right now is a much better fighter than Canelo was in 2013.

 

I dispute the last part of your post. Spence's best win to date is Kell brook...who was arguably damaged goods. When Floyd fought Canelo, Alvarez had already beat undefeated Trout (who dominated Cotto), Cintron and Mosley.

So you're only saying that because you think Spence looks better than Canelo from your perspective, but it's not an objective stance.

 

alvarez win over trout was hardly as impressive as spence's win over brook. close debatable fight where the entire bout hinged on the open scoring fiasco.

mosley was shot

did you really mention cintron?

 

1. Mosley was 1,000 years ago. That fight is completely irrelevant.

2. Cintron? LMAOOO!

3. The Trout fight is very controversial. The opening scoring completely fucked Trout's gameplan in that fight. And even STILL it was a very close fight.

Look, we ALLLL know your agenda in constantly defending Canelo, but the fact is at 23 he was extremely limited and Spence was a better technician and a more complete fighter.

He's grown and improved since then, but he's still a relatively limited fighter.

Spence IMO is a better fighter than Canelo, P4P.

He doesn't need a 15 pound weight advantage on his opponents to win.

Canelo's a more explosive fighter, but Spence is far more steady, has better technical skills, and has stamina than the lil spurt fighter could only dream of.

If you put them in the ring and Canelo didn't have an absurd weight advantage, Spence would whup him.

 

The clown will grasp for ANY straw to protect a Floyd victim.

 

not sure why mosley ever gets mentioned as some type of accomplishment for alvarez. he hadnt won a fight in over 3 years head into the alvarez match

 

Sly's stated several times that Canelo would beat a prime Mosley too.

 

He would definitely beat a prime Mosley. Prime Mosley barely beat Rivera and was wiped out by Forrest.

 

Wrong. You would grasp for any straw to disparage a Floyd victim

 

Sly, name ONE prime and quality fighter Canelo has beaten.

The last quality fighter Canelo faced who was in his prime was Lara, and a majority feel Canelo lost that fight.

 

The point is: Spence had ONLY beaten Brook. Canelo at least had more recognizable names on his resume and Trout was previously undefeated. Don't try to turn this into a "justify Canelo 's resume" discussion. I'm too smart for that misdirection. The issue I responded to was you saying that Spence is a better fighter than Canelo was

 

Quite frankly, Spence looked more impressive on Sat than Canelo's ever looked.

I'm sorry, but destroying Khan, Smith, and Kirkland don't really impress me. Neither does beating up a Chumpez Jr was there to collect a check.

 

Floyd never fought a prime natural welter and he never fought anyone with the size of Spence except an 8 years past his prime DLH. It shows just how effective his career management was that people assume he could beat Spence. It was never clear to me that PAC and Floyd could beat Thurman, Spence or Brook.

Canelo was big but he's too short, stubby and slow footed to apply real pressure. Spence is clearly better now than Canelo was then but it's a different fight.

 

I do agree with D&M that Canelo was the bigger challenge for Floyd than Spence would be now. Canelo was the guy many said Floyd wouldn't have the guts to fight, which is something most have forgotten by now. Also he was at least as proven as Spence. His style was more suitable for Floyd than Spence's but that's about it

 

Quite frankly...given Canelo's size, power, and combination punching it's likely he would have given the already damaged Brook a hellacious beatdown....more impressive than Spence did.

 

Canelo's NEVER Looked Impressive Against SPEED Fighters.

Floyd, Lara, Trout, Even Amir Khan...




REED

 

Brook isn't that fast.

 

brook is as fast and slick as trout

 

Who would win Canelo vs. Brook before the orbital injuries?

 

Brook Ain't Roy or Even Floyd in that Regard, but he DOES Have Good Hand/Foot Speed...

To Say He "Isn't That Fast", as it Pertains to Facing Canelo, Is INACCURATE...







REED

 

REED...my brother. Floyd is Floyd...so let's remove him from the equation. I think both Lara and Trout were southpaws...and southpaws give everyone trouble, that leaves Khan who is significantly faster than Brook.

Those guys can't be used as a template that Brook fits into bra. Not at all. You know as well as I, that Canelo woulda beat dat ass someth'n terrible.

 

Regardless What YOU Think of Brook's Level of Speed, Canelo has ALWAYS Struggled w/MOBILE Guys Capable of BEATING Him to the Punch...

That's Kell Brook to a "T", Brother Sly...

Brook's Got GOOD Feints and Punch Variety Also...REED Won't Sit Here and Tell You Brook BEATS Canelo, but that Bout is Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a Foregone Conclusion, Either Way...

And REED is a FAN of Canelo's...






REED

 

Canelo would definitely have struggled with Brook.

Spence can cut the ring. Canelo cannot.

 

Agreed with sly. Canelo would whoop brook.

 

He would outweigh him by a lot, I would hope so.

But Brook has the talent and skill to be a difficult fight for the Ginger.

Who in the fuck do people think Canelo is? Ricardo Lopez? Jesus Christ his starpower has made him overrated.

He's never streamrolled a quality fighter.

 

would he? at a catch weight of 152lbs like the mayweather jr fight?

brook looked bigger than spence and very strong. surely 160+

 

I think it is more a case of you overrating Brook. Guy is not that good and is very fragile (not to mention that heart doesnt seems to be his strong suit)

 

jesus of mongrel M.D. would have surely fought 3+ rounds with a broke eye socket against a young, aggressive future champion/pound for pound contender.

its amusing hearing brook's heart questioned by peons

kinda like when hegman accused israel vasquez of being an abject coward for the first fight with marquez.