Spence vs Thurman

I guess the idea that GGG ruined Brook despite Brook looking as good as he ever has against Spence is just a sexy idea to some.

 

I already anticipated this nonsense.

Spence is a better fighter than Brook guys, deal with it.

 

, don't you know, the beating GGG gave to Brook was so severe (despite being a terribly early quit job), that it softened up Brook facial structure so that Spence was able to break his orbital bone.

Would never have happened if it was prime Brook, the one who beat Porter (and barely won).

 

Once you've had a bad injury once it affects you psychologically at least for quite some time afterwards.

I dislocated my right shoulder when I was 18 and for the next ten years I refused to use my full force when punching with my right hand.

 

Spence Beats the Brakes Off Thurman...

Unlike Brook, Thurman Doesn't Move to Set Up Shots, he Moves for DEFENSIVE Purposes...Like REED Said on the Other Thread, Thurman DOESN'T Integrate Offense and Defense Nearly as Well as Brook Does; He's Either All the Way Offensive or All the Way Defensive...

Thurman CAN'T In-Fight Worth a Damn Either...Spence is Just a BAD Matchup for Thurman, Stylistically...






REED

 

The Hell with being a "bad matchup" for Thurman.

That implies that two fighters are on the same level, and one's style is bad for another.

Spence won't beat Thurman because of styles. He'll beat Thurman cause he's a higher caliber fighter.

 

Styles makes fights. I wasn't impressed at all with Spence's crowning performance. Thurman beats him convincingly IMO.

 

Yeah, because Thurman going life and death with Garcia was a Mayweather-Corrales like performance....

Go back to the movie section.

 

Styles DO Make Fights, and Brook's was More Conducive to DEFEATING Errol Spence than Thurman's Is...

Spence's Performance was SUBTLELY Impressive...It Wasn't 1 or 2 "WOW" Moments that Won Him the Fight, it was the BODY of His Work, from Round 1 to the End...You May or May Not Be Impressed Watching a Guy Chop Down a Tree, but You HAVE to Be Impressed w/the Result...





REED

 

Anybody picking Uma Thurman is gonna have to explain to us HOW he's gonna win?

 

hahaha....you kill me with your nicknames. Good one.

 

It is not THAT difficult to picture. Thurman hits hard, IMO clearly harder than Brook, and Spence likes to come forwards. Also, you can call Thurman a runner if you want (and it is accurate too) but KOing a running man is never easy. I could see Thurman's punch make Spence bit wary and that could open him a way to decision victory.

I think I'd pick Spence, but it is far from given, even though he clearly is the more likable fighter

 

But Thurman didn't beat Porter convincingly... Doesn't bode well against someone like Spence, from where I'm standing.

 

Ugo made a good point as is his usual custom: it's not easy to KO a running man. In addition to this, Thurman has enough power to keep Spence honest. I'd pick Spence but it's not a given.

 

Gut feeling?

I am the John the Baptist of fightbeat, the lone voice that shouts in the desert: Thurman will win over Spence!

 

He'd need to be able to hurt spence early in the fight to get his respect then do his usual style of throwing bombs and moving around as his form of defense. It could work vs a more hesitant version of spence

 

Spence is from Dallas so he could get 60K in Jerryworld by himself

 

Why does Thurman clearly hit harder than Brook? Brook wiped his ass with guys like Bizier and Dan while Thurman gave dance lessons to guys like Bundu and Zaveck. He couldn't stop smaller guys moving up like Garcia and Gurrrero. Thurman has become a pretty well rounded fighter but he's not a standout puncher at all.

 

Yeah, there's NO evidence whatsoever that Thurman's a bigger puncher than Brook. Absolutely ZERO.

If you take their only common opponent, Porter, NOTHING suggests that Thurman hits harder.

Brook's right hand hurt Porter moreso than Thurman's left hook did.

Would Thurman be able to momentarily stun Golov? HIGHLY unlikely.

I think Brook has more power.

Thurman hasn't shown real power since the Soto Karass fight... which was like 20 years ago.

 

Brook looked like utter shit against Porter. Win or lose he fought like an total hack.

 

It was a stinker and Brook got a lot of criticism for holding but Porter is a shit fighter that crowds his opponent to the point where holding seems like the logical option.

 

You're 1 of Those REED Spoke of, Who Gave a FALSE Impression of the Fight, Until He Saw it for Himself...

Who Landed the CLEANER Punches, Doub???...Are You HONESTLY Telling REED Porter Didn't Initiate as Many or More Clinches???...

Though Not Quite a SCHOOLING, REED Would Definitely Say Porter was a Tad Bit OUTCLASSED...Kell Brook Won CLEARLY, so if You Truly Think he "Looked Like Utter Shit", Your Opinion of Shawn Porter MUST Have Diminished...





REED

 

So now Brook doesn't let people hit him full force in the face?

 

Indeed. It's incredible that Brook managed to get so many accolades out of this fight. It seems that for some, a close boring fight against a B+ fighter is enough to qualify as a p4pounder,

BTW, the only way that someone can think that this fight wasn't close is if he completely ignore Porter bodywork.

 

Porter needs to go away. Just an awful eye sore. Terp has him pegged. All credit to thurman for making a porter fight somewhat watchable but he struggled more than brook did

 

Double is Porter's only fan, only because he's from Ohio.

Porter's horrible to watch. I wouldn't care if I never saw him wrestle err umm I mean "fight" again.

 

What the fuck kinda question is this?

I'm saying that an injury affects you psychologically and in the case of having a damaged bone on your face it's likely that when Brook gets hit hard in any eye that it makes him think of his injuries and likely makes him more prone to give up.

 

He didn't suddenly give up, he didn't suddenly fade and his eye didn't suddenly swell up. He quit when he didn't have enough left to win. He actually got up at 9.

 

I can see that you're a guy that just likes to argue for the sake of arguing. Stop being a cunt. I never said he would suddenly quit on the spot. I said an injury makes you more prone to giving up as you're aware of it and the same punches you'd normally take not only hurt but also worry you because of the injury. You know what I mean, stop being a cunt.

 

I am saying Brook won by stinking out the joint. So no. Wasn't at all impressive on the part of Brook. And didn't really diminish Porter imo.