UFC 184 - ROUSEY vs. ZINGANO

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    How the FUCK did one blind, retarded judge have Racquel "Rocky Juarez" Pennington winning the fight? She didn't even win a round. Holm still got the better of her in round 3, it was an easier fight than I expected for Holm, given it was her UFC debut.

    And why on earth does Dana like Pennington? She has some ability, but does fuck all, just plods around like Juarez, throwing the odd punch. She either has some sort of mental bloc, or lacks courage or something.
     
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    I thought it was funny, made me actually like Ronda a bit more :kidcool:
     
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    Agreed, she lost the plot, even Rogan was confused, and just kind of asking the same question again and again :lol:
     
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    Zingano fucking sucks. What a pathetic performance, she looked like a rank amateur.

    Obviously I'm surprised, but in a way not THAT surprised, as I expected Ronda to win in the 1st round, and "like I said before" my impression was that Zingano only beat Miesha through size/strength. She didn't look very good to me, looked very basic in that fight.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Agreed. Cyborg and Holm are the only 2 vaguely interesting fights out there, and she'd win both easily.

    If I was Ronda, I'd probably be more interested in shooting a movie or something too.

    BTW regarding Holm, she won pretty easily, but it shows how awful women's boxing is compared to men's. Her defense sucks, she was laughably hittable against a very basic fighter in Pennington, on the odd occasion when Pennington did actually throw.

    However, her TD defense was quite good actually, and she was physically stronger than I expected.
     
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    :lol:

    BTW, did Wandy and Rourke go to the same back alley plastic surgeon? :dunno:
     
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    The UFC doesnt post details of their fighters pay. They arent going to do that. But you can trust rousey got PPV points and Bonus money. ANd when Ronda's contract comes up, you can trust she will be getting way more money per fight and way more PPV points.
     
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    Because she is willing to take the fights and dont have enough girls. She is tough as nails. They need more girls in the division.
     
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    "You can trust", lol. I tend to like actual details and facts rather than just "trusting" something is the case, ie assuming.

    Otherwise I can only go on what I read, which is she got 65k for fighting and the same for winning.

    Sure, I know she obviously makes a LOT more money than that from her Reebok sponsorship, movies etc, but that's another topic.
     
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    She also makes money from PPV points, which has been proven the UFC does. Im not sure why the need to play ignorant on these facts.
     
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    That's kind of a generic answer. I know the UFC need as many girls as they can get, and ones who are willing to take fights.

    I'm wondering why he has a soft spot for Pennington in particular, it was evident even on the TUF season.

    She's not very good, and she's really boring.
     
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    I'm not playing ignorant on anything, I've simply never seen the details to shed light on what you're talking about.

    I'm simply going on what I have read, what the UFC releases.
     
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    The UFC doesnt release those numbers. The athletic commission does. If you have never seen or heard about PPV points, just look at Anderson Silva's news and alister Overeem's contract that was shown in court.
     
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    I dont see her as boring at all, but to each is own i guess.
     
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    She looked to have a better boxing stance than Holm. She is just too small and didn't pull the trigger. When she threw some leather she connected with better shots than Holm. Holm was good with her TDD, though. Boxing wise she looked like Amir Khan. Stupid high volume no power boxbot.

    Yeah mex is right it looked like the female MMA version of Khan vs. Rocky Juarez... :lol:
     
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    Holm had no fear of Rocky's power that is why she wasnt worried about her connecting.
     
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    Could be...
     
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    To keep her prepped, Rousey said her mom would wake her by trying to put her in an arm bar every morning.
     
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    That was a really sweet arm bar, much higher level than I was expecting based on the Zingano complaints. This is a shit happens fight, very comparable to some of Tyson's wins.

    The sport is such that a good wrestler can start fighting mma and be 8-0 in 2 years and a viable opponent for Rousey. To say she should retire is nonsense, imo.

    History hasn't been kind to fighters who go the movie route, but I'm sure the money makes it worth the risk.
     
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    OK mikE :lol:
     
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    Yeah that's about right :lol:
     
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    History hasn't been kind to female fighters fighting men either, but I can't deny it would be extremely interesting see Ronda fight a man.

    Who reckons she could take the mini dudebro Faber?

    Female boxers have it tough, because A) They're fucking awful compared to male boxers, and B) The man's advantage in punching power and chin is too much to overcome.

    But MMA is completely different, I think Ronda would do much better. Women MMA fighters are just better than their boxing counterparts, they are more suited to grappling etc.

    Ronda would be fighting men who weigh the same as they women she's been fighting, I see no reason why she couldn't use her skills to just toss mini dudebro around like a ragdoll too, and submit him. Obviously he'd win the standup easily, but I think she could avoid it.
     
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    MWS, there is no fucking way a woman can hang with a world-class mma guy. Faber would destroy Ronda and I doubt Ronda would disagree.

    I don't know how far down the food chain you'd have to go before she'd be competitive, but in most sports it's in the hundreds and in MMA it is probably deeper than most sports.
     
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    How do you know that though? Like I said I know good female boxers have been destroyed, but MMA is very different, and seems to be something women are naturally better at.

    Not only that but Ronda is exceptionally fucking good. It was even impressive watching her easily throw men around in the TUF house.
     
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    I dont. And i have seen most of her fights.
     
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    Easy to throw me around when they are just standing there.
     
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    agreed

    i trained with a very high level BJJ lady..
    my hands are very good and my kicks as well.. in a stand up, boxing/kickboxing i'm just way ahead... but in BJJ i'm limited.. this lady is an expert. We grappled and it became very clear, i was not out to prove anything or hurt anyone but me at 185 or so and her and i don't know what.. maybe 130 ? it's too big a difference.

    when you can just overpower it's a big deal. I could pick her up at will and slam her
     

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