Wilder - Zelenoff

He lost to that King of the Trailer Parks guy that Reed knows. He's a fucking LOSER. Wilder should be ashamed of himself. They all should. Zelenoff is a section 8 fuck-up.

 

:: wonder which book or movie American 2002/2003 learned about Section 8 in

 

It was mentioned it to me by, of all people, my father, when watching an ENGLISH film called "The Hill".

 

There's a Premise Known as "CAUSE & EFFECT", Dude...

Like Anyone Else, SURELY, Charlie Zelenoff has Loved 1's that are Persuasive Enough to Keep Him OUT of Shenanigans like This???...Zelenoff is a World Renown TROLL that will Stoop to ANY Lengths to Get Himself Noticed...

Zelenoff was BLATANTLY Disrespectful & RACIAL w/Deontay Wilder, Had the AUDACITY to Come to Wilder's Gym Anyways, yet it's WILDER'S Fault Zelenoff Got his Ass Whipped???...Uuuuuh, NO:nono:...

There was a Guy who 1nce Fancied Himself as a Modern Day "Tarzan"...Claimed he was Most Comfortable w/Wild Apes, Gorillas & Such...Apparently, there's Even Footage of Dude Interacting w/Them...According to Scientists, the Gorillas Thought of him as a "Retard" for Lack of a Better Term & Considered him Toooo Weak to Even Bother w/the Level of Resistance they'd NORMALLY Give to a Human...

Nonetheless, Before Loooooooooong, Dude was Found Dead, MANGLED by Wild Apes/Gorillas...

It's NOT Anybody Else's Responsibility to LOOK OUT For Charlie Zelenoff...Fuck That...It's a Live & LET Live World...When Sigfried (or Was it Roy) Had his FACE Ripped Off by a Tiger he Pracitically RAISED, was it the Tiger's Fault???...

"People Say that Tiger Went Crazy. No, that Tiger Went TIGER!" - Chris Rock




REED:mj:

 

Clearly, you Feel STRONGLY About this...

So When EXACTLY will that "Sympathy for Charlie Zelenoff" Twitter/Facebook Page LAUNCH???...




REED:boohoo:

 

I don't have any sympathy for Zelenoff- apart from the sympathy I might have for anyone that A} is born with a mental impediment and B} is taken advantage of, accordingly.

And the tigers/apes example.........is a tigers/apes example.

I am talking about "Men" here.

Men have higher standards than beasts. Supposedly.

If, in 1950, Zelenoff had showed up at Marcianos training camp, talking shit....... would the Rock have invited him in and beaten the shit out of him?

No. Charlie Goldman would have quietly asked him to leave the premises.

 

Unless You're Zelenoff's PHYSICIAN &/Or Possess EEG, EKG Test Results of His, You're in NO Position to Speak on his Mental State, Dude...

Zelenoff Got what he DESERVED...You're the ONLY Person REED's Ever Seen, Suggesting Otherwise...




REED:mj:

 

Reed, do you think Charlie Zelenoff is a normal man with average intellect and accompanying IQ?

 

Aside from Having a Bizarrely OVERINFLATED Opinion of his Fighting Prowess, there's NATHAN Abnormal about Charlie Zelenoff, on the Surface...

The Character You Referenced from "Million Dollar Baby" had an APPARENT Mental Defect, Which Also Compromised him PHYSICALLY...But Zelenoff Looks, Talks & Moves like a REGULAR Dude...Are his Motor Skills Hampered???...Does he SLUR when he Talks???...

1 of REED's Closest Friends in a Complete DUMBASS in Terms of "Average Intellect & Accompanying IQ"...Nonetheless, he's the King of his Castle, Consisting of Wife & Child...He Goes to Work Everyday, Pays his Bills on Time, You Know, NORMAL Human Behavior...He Also has a College Degree...

Guys Can Be "Throwed Off", "Not All There", "Dumb as Bricks", or However Else You Want to Word it, w/Out Having a CLINICALLY Inept Mental Capacity...Charlie Zelenoff is DELUDED As Fuck, but he Doesn't Appear to Be TRUE Short Bus Material (Again, on the Surface), in REED's Opinion...His Mind & Body are SOUND Enough to Accept Any Asswhippings his Mouth Illicits...





REED:mj:

 

Reed, he walks around his bedroom with bottles of champagne and championship belts..................

 

And???...

There's Also Multi-Weight World Champions that Cross Dress & Like Dildo's Up their Ass...




REED:dunno:

 

I can't believe he walks around with a hat that says "World Champion" :atu:

 

He has belts, too. And champagne to celebrate with. He's nuttier than a Christmas Cake factory.

 

Yes, but he is a multiweight champ and likes dildos up his butt.

Zelenoff IS NOT a boxer or anything even close.

 

You have to beat the champ to become the champ. You're just trying to keep the white man down, Irish.

 

I think this Zelenoff clown is eventually going to get shot or stabbed.

He's going to wind up like "Ringo" in the "Gunfighter". People are going to be queuing up to see who can be the first to fracture his skull.

Zelenoff has an infamy because of his stupidity. He's no actual physical threat to anyone who can keep their hands up or has the ability to walk away from him. 6'8" 255lb heavyweights with designs on the title should not be hitting him. If he shows up at their gym, he should be asked to leave, or law enforcement should be called to escort him off the premises.

 

But Clearly, Zelenoff is a HARDCORE Fan of Boxing...To Varying Degrees EVERY Hardcore Fan has that Side to Them that Thinks/Wonders if they Can/Could have Been a Successful Boxer...Zelenoff Represents the EXTREME Side of this Mindstate...

REED Would Be Lying if he Said he DIDN'T Want to Experience the Sheer SPEED of a Prime Roy Jones or the POWER of a Young Tyson, @ 1 Point in his Life...Fortunately, REED's NOT "Throwed Off" Enough, Nor CONFIDENT Enough in his Abilities, to Have SERIOUSLY Pondered or Warranted Even a LIGHT Sparring Session of that Ilk...

It's Clear Zelenoff has "Issues", "Isn't ALL There", or What Have You, but he Eventually Knows WHEN to Say When, Based on Video Evidence...It's NOT Like he was Initiating Exchanges w/Wilder, After Getting Tagged, or Anything...It Takes AWHILE, but Dude Eventually Realizes When he's In OVER His Head...

That Right There Shows he's MORE Aware than You're Giving him Credit for Being...DELUDED???...Hell Yes...But Mentally UNFIT Enough to NOT Be Held RESPONSIBLE for his Actions & Deeds???...Hell No...





REED:mj:

 

If he got behind the wheel of a car and was DUI he would be passed mentally fit for trial, I have no doubt. I think he could safely be given a driving licence and be deemed fit to drive.

But when it comes to boxing and the internet, he seems to step over a line between a safe voyeurism or fantasizing on one hand....and outright insanity on the other.

He could probably sit in a shrinks office and pass test after test after test...until the shrink gives him a camera and tells him to talk boxing. At that point, Zelenoff becomes totally irresponsible and detached from all reality.

 

The GREAT Andrew Hartley!!!...



REED:clapagain:

 

Is there a wiki on this Zelenoff guy? I've heard the name before, but this is the first time I've ever seen him or heard of anything he's done.

 

I think he is an attention seeker who is actually getting what he wants. As a boxing fan, he got to meet Floyd Sr. and Deontay Wilder and many other low level fighters. And he isn't paralyzed or severely injured. I think this is what he wants. Do you think he cries at night because he keeps getting his ass kicked by some and punked by others?

I think he goes to bed happy at night. He's a fucking NOBODY who has at least become a semi famous troll. In his mind, no doubt, he's a legend.

 

Wilder is 6'7" 225 lbs.

 

Apparently he called Wilder the "n" word several times and told him he was going to kidnap his daughter if he didn't agree to fight him.

If he keeps fucking around like that he won't be long for this earth. He's lucky all he got was an asswhipping.

 

Yes. Very much the size of Akinwande. Also, Bowe and Lewis were under 230 early in their careers. The mid to late 90's is when they all started getting heavier.

 

Utterly amazed at how this incident provoked such an impassioned discussion :bears:

 

Disagree there, Irish.

That's entering the realm of "Oh, it wasn't like it was in the good old day. We was gentlemen back then"
(whilst doing dodgy deals with The Mafia and getting blowjobs off 'proper ladies' in the changing rooms)

Marciano would have torn him a new one.

 

Then why didn't it happen??? It's either because back then, people didn't go looking for trouble as much, or people didn't go looking for attention off the back of some weak deluded man-child.

I remember Jack Dempsey sparring a journalist or something like that but this seems totally different.

 

Here's your answer. Wilder was REALLY PISSED OFF at Charlie Z. And people deal with situations in different ways. Charlie Z stepped over the line and got the guy's full attention. Which is what he wanted.

You guys keep mentioning "Million Dollar Baby." I never saw that one. It reminds me of the scene in Bad Santa when Billy Bob Thornton was kicking the shit out of those kids. And didn't feel an ounce of remorse about it.

 

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