Wonder Woman (2017) first look/clips

Yup. To give the MCU some credit though they have at least 4 films with 90+ rottentomatoes rating. Impressive.

I suspect that Wonder Woman has a shot at some academy awards, being that it has a female lead as well as being good.

 

This time Disney decided not to pay. Otherwise it would be too obvious.

 

. Come off it. I watched Suicide Squad for the first time this past weekend...and it was shit. Started off interesting but just degenerated from there into a mess. BvS was ok, but the potential was wasted in the execution. MoS was just a disaster....all I remember from it was Kryptonians flying through buildings and destroying the place.

On the other hand the following films had great scripts and good flow:

Iron Man
Avengers
Civil War
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Guardians of the Galaxy
The Incredible Hulk

The critics were merely a microcosm of the viewing public.

 

My point is: this movie needs to be a massive hit for DC not just financially because the others havent been complete box-offices failures but also from a standpoint that DC are 'back in the game' and from a socio-political point: I've never read so much about a movie relating to women/Feminism and other LGBT groups - its all over the media.

And in today's climate that's a major plus.

I can't envision too many guys going "Hey dudes...fancy seeing the new Wonder Woman flick?"

This movie is being similar treatment to the Ghostbusters remake last year...but from different angles.

 

I must have missed something: what's the LGBT angle in this film?

Actually most "dudes" are interested in this film. Wonder Woman is a well known and iconic comic book character...the fact that she's a woman is secondary. Like I said before it's Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and the Wonder Woman in terms of comic book mainstream cultural impact.

I think it'll be a hit.

 

Im sure I told you about this before but ou probably dismisse it as a Magus trap!

Come on Sly, I know you have some sexual naivety but cant believe youre that naive?
Wonder Woman has always been a gay icon - I thought everyone knew that?
The 1970s series with Lynda Carter started all that - or it might have even been dabbled with in the 60s.

Oh well, here you go:
Wonder Woman is an LGBT icon, but will the 2017 movie reveal her bisexuality:
Wonder Woman Is An LGBT Icon, Will The Movie Reveal Her Bisexuality?

Will Wonder Woman be the movies´ first major queer superhero?
Will Wonder Woman be the movies' first major queer superhero?

Confirmed: Wonder Woman is queer - LBGT Nation
Confirmed: Wonder Woman is queer

There´s literally tons of articles about it - but you can always Google ´Wonder Woman Gay Icon´ and read em for ya self!

 

I'll check'em out. I heard though that in this film she has a nude love scene with Chris Pine. That doesn't sound particularly bisexual.

 

Dude. Are you that dumb or naive? LOLz
Seriously?
Does ´acceptance´ of modern-day Homosexuality, Bisexuality and of LBGT issues disgust you so much that you refuse to admit whats going on and/or bury your head in the sand about it?

 

You are right! 94% RT. I stand corrected.

 

What?

 

Your ´But....Noooooooooooo!!! She gets involved with Chris Pine - a man!!! Hetrosexuality all the way!!!´ comment is almost you in denial!!

Panchy is worse - the mere thought of a gay Luke Skywalker had him suffering a stroke Im sure (or was that you too, Sly?)

 

Bisexual woman is no problem for me Magus. Many women fantasize or experiment with it. It's no big deal.

A gay Luke Skywalker...now that's an entirely different matter...

 

Is not a 'nude love scene'. It is more that she accidentally sees him naked and became curious about his, er, masculinity distinction as she had never seen a man before...much less a male 'distinction'.

 

It'll be a hit. It'll rival MCU hit numbers.

 

Same here - Im not that warped that I hope a movie fails spectacularly, but I do feel for DC - they deserve to get their shit together.
Im more interested in seeing how Justice League pans out, tbh.
Ive never been into Wonder Woman comics, TV show or movies.....the character is just too goody-goody for my liking - bt like how DC made Superman.

 

The first two Superman films are excellent. After that, IMO, only the Nolan Batman trilogy are on that level.

All of the ones in between and after have been substandard.

DC comics, IMO are better than Marvel Comics (with the exception of X men)...but Marvel has so far translated their characters to screen far better.

 

BvS was soooo much wasted potential. I was very intrigued during the first 30 mins...but it's as if Zach Snider just got bored and ran out of ideas and just took shortcuts to finish the film. It could have been the best comic book superhero film to date.

I know that when you say Marvel movie, you're speaking specifically to the MCU, but the first two X men films were definitely high on an intellectual and philosophical level as well as in the execution and the screenplay. Far superior to any DC film outside of the Nolan Trilogy films...and at least as good as those two.

 

Also...The Incredible Hulk is a very underrated film. It was a serious thriller....and very well paced.

 

Man of Steel was bullshit though.

 

Yes, I've seen it and it is much better....but it still doesn't solve perhaps the main problem with the film: The reason why Superman decided to fight Batman (Batman's reasons were well built up) and the resolution of the fight (Batman's mother having the same first name is bullshit). Also Superman choosing to let Batman go after his mother instead....would never happen. It was his mother and he's faster and more powerful than Batman...he would tell Wayne "screw you...I'm going after her...if you know where she is tell me". Also...no way could Superman have held that Kryptonite Spear for long enough to kill Doomsday with it. Bull shit.

That's why I disagree with this "intellectual, philosophical" take that you have on the film. These were childish/rushed decisions made by the director.

 

The fact that the film didn't have a real villain is what actually troubled me. Zod was too sympathetic. I had loved Superman 2, because the villain (Zod) was clearly defined. Zod was power hungry as well as out for revenge on Jor'el (and his progeny). Great set up. In this one....Zod had a point....the Krypton council were bullshit and deserved to die. He wanted this codec which was understandable. Also Zod could have terraformed Mars or Venus, he didn't need Earth. The story tried to be clever but was too convoluted and messy and then they thought they'd make up for it by crashing through gas stations and buildings for teh last hour of the film. Too much BS for me.

 

I think Civil War is underrated from a Philosophical and cerebral standpoint. Lots of deep sub-plots within that film. It wasn't just action and fighting. It wasn't a comedy either. There's the basic overarching question of whether Superheroes require government oversight. Are they heroes or menace? There's Black Panther's personal reasons for entering the fray. There's the complicated relationship between Rogers and Barnes and Rogers and Stark. There's the Barnes backstory which ultimately links him to Stark. There's a lot of good stuff going on between the action scenes...which were excellent. Black Panther was a great character. In fact all of the Superheroes were handled well and each one had his/her moment to shine. Very well crafted film and not a kiddie film by any means.

Winter Soldier was a thriller and very good too.