Would you pick Cotto over PBF?

mayweather has feared cotto ever since he saw cotto destroy sosa.

 

I think if the fight generates enough money, Fraud WILL be lured back into a fight with Cotto, and will pot and run like a bitch, to pull out a shamelessly disgusting, stinking, decision. If Margarito beats Cotto down however,..:crafty: well,... Fraud will simply never fight again,..and retire as "welterweight champion" :doh: :laughing: .

 

Oh no! Not another alabama type of farewell again

I don't think I could take seeing Fraud cry again....

 

I would still pick Floyd to beat Cotto but I've always thought Cotto would give him the best challenge.

Even when some said the bigger challenge was Hatton based on style.

First of all that "style makes fights" is a fucking overrated phrase. If you suck it don't matter what style you got you won't pull it off.

Cotto is just a complete fighter and has been getting better over the years. Floyd is still better and faster but the gap is closer now than before.

Some people believe Hatton's pressure would give Floyd problems as if nobody had tried that before ::

Cotto can do alot of things in there. Sure Floyd's biggest advantage is his speed but it's not like Cotto is a snail in there. He is pretty quick and has power upstairs and to the body.

Floyd would have to take his time and figure him out.

 

The only current fighter I thought had a serious chance of beating Floyd was Hatton. Cotto would get butchered, he's too ponderous and measured. To beat Floyd you'd have to be willing to take a shot to land one and you gotta be willing to miss allot and willing to hit arms and shoulders more than bellies and jaws. Cotto wants to do things perfectly, he would get taken apart.

 

That's a bit of a stupid thing to say. The people who had tried it, AND had some success with it, were smaller, inferior fighters like Jesus Chavez.

Hatton is a lot bigger and a lot better than the likes of Chavez, so it was a logical line of thinking.

As it happens, Hatton is just not good enough, and he's also lost a step or 2. He's nowhere near as fast and high energy as he used to be. His workrate and stamina has declined badly. Probably due in part to the way he balloons up between fights etc.

Anyway, onto Cotto. I used to think Cotto stood almost no chance, but he really has been getting better and better.

He looks like a complete fighter now, and a superb one at that. His boxing ability has increased, his jab has got better, and his defense is significantly better too.

Amazingly, he also seems to look faster at 147 than 140, and that's even against speedsters like Judah and Mosley.

So whereas before I thought he was too slow and patient to beat Floyd, now I am not so sure.

I think he has a great chance, and like others have said, the longer Floyd leaves it, the better Cotto's chances become.

 

Cotto doesn't mind taking a shot to get into position. He doesn't mind punching with his opponent either, and he's a very good combination puncher. I can't see Cotto standing still while Mayweather runs circles around him while potshotting. It doesn't mean he beats Mayweather, but I really don't think he'd get butchered. The last guy Mayweather really butchered is Gatti and Cotto is a few level above him.

 

If they fought tomorrow, Floyd would have to be the favourite but there is no doubt that Cotto is improving with each passing fight and he is clearly the biggest threat to Floyd at 147 (presuming he actually chooses to fight at the weight he is champion against legit contenders).

As other's have said, the longer Floyd waits, the better Cotto's chances are. And Floyd seems in no hurry whatsoever to get in the ring with Cotto, which IMO is a detriment not only to his chances of winning, but also to his legacy if, as I expect, the fight never happens at all.

 

One thing is certain, if Floyd beats Cotto it's his best win.

 

Well I hope your right, but I still suspect Miguel's gonna be a very easy style match up for Mayweather, too slow footed and neat.

 

I think you underrate his footwork but I might very well be the one overrating it.:: I tell you dude, it's a close fight, you'll be surprise if it happens. Cotto has a lot of stuff to trouble Floyd.

 

good point!

Definitely very possible. Very likely to happen the more I think about it. Floyd wouldn't be dumb enough to stand in front of cotto. Cotto would have to go looking for him and take the inevitable potshots. cottos perfectionism is a good point

:bears:

 

Here's a list of things Cotto does well that will help him against Mayweather :

• Closing the gap

• Bodypunching
• Timing
• Jabbing
• Combination punching
• Takes a punch well and recovers fast
• Switching stance (His lead left and right hook are pretty good even though it turns him into his normal stance)
• Lead Right

 

A few weeks back I mentioned on another thread I have a gut feeling this fight won't happen. I don't know why.

REED has said he's sure it will, and it's bound to happen etc

And logically it should, but I just get the feeling that it won't, at least not in the near future.

 

There is a lot to be said in comparing this fight to Hatton-Witter.

The longer the fight is postponed, the less likely the favoured fighter right now (PBF/Hatton) is to win.

Moreover, the longer the wait in both cases, the less likely either fight is to happen. Mister REED insists that PBF-Cotto will, just as I insist that Hatton-Witter will, simply because we both know that these fights are legacy defining fights for fighters whom we both root for.

Neither of us wants to admit the truth: namely that neither of these fights will likely happen. Ever.

 

I've got this feeling too. Too many obstacles are in the way of this fight. Mayweather has plenty of opportunities to make a lot of money without working too hard and he doesn't want to do business with Arum anymore. Cotto seems content to face whoever gets put in front of him and isn't really a loud mouth, even though he said in a spanish interview that he wanted to face Mayweather. This interview wasn't really mainstream and unless he calls him out during a HBO date, these calls will remain unanswered. It's a shame though because that's the best fight in boxing right now.

 

Dunno about that, witter is mid thirties himself, its not to his advantage either. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Witter fall off soon enough or lose his title. At which point Hatton will point out that there's no reason to fight him anymore.

 

witter won't lose because the comp isnt that good. bradley?

but there is no doubt that his days are numbered. hes 35 now.

 

When Cotto buys out of his Top Rank contract then the fight will happen. Floyd has made it pretty clear he isn't working with Arum.

 

I think we will see a good fight with Mararito but Cotto will stop him and look very impressive, then Floyd-Cotto and Floyd will stop Cotto then retire

 

Despite the respective ages of the two, Hatton seems to be in steady decline whilst Witter appears to be getting better.

Witter won't lose his title unless he fights Hatton- there is no-one else at 140 likely to beat him in the foreseeable future.

 

I think we'll see Hatton-Witter and Hatton will brutalize him like he's a drunken bum

 

whats subjective is whether Hatton would be favoured at this moment in time. Would he be a betting favourite to win if the fight was made? i doubt it.

 

like gomez brutalised cotto ::

 

well.. that one didn't quite work out

more like how Floyd Brutalized Hatton and knocked him out like he was a drunken dishwasher

 

I'd be astonished if Witter was favoured by the odds-makers if that fight was made tomorrow.

 

Attraction - although it must be painful for you to acknowledge, Hatton would almost certainly be the bookies favourite if that fight was made now.

 

dsimon writes:

Years from now Cotto will be known as a brooding champion on the order of a Maxie Bauer, a guy who destroys his opponents in the ring. A guy who does not want to win so much as to destroy, and take every last leg his opponent could grab and saw it off.

In a word Cotto is a great boxing personality. He does not call guys out because he does not want to call a man to his demise in the ring.... he prefers to let his fickle friend fate make that decision... Cotto's ony job is to show up on the other side and commence his destruction.

 

I'd still favor Floyd, but not by much. Floyd shoulda fought Cotto a few years ago, he'd have beaten him easily. Instead now Cotto is just hitting his peak, whereas Floyd is 31 and IMO slightly on the downside. Still I'd slighly favor Floyd because of his brilliance, but Cotto has a helluva chance.