So this makes it official right?

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  1. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Pfft!
     
  2. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Fuck Floyd for the way he's handled his career since 2007. And for that matter, Pacquiao isn't blameless either. I think Floyd, Bob, and Manny are all to blame for the fight not taking place. And so are we for being enablers and paying $$ for bullshit fights so both of them can make "easy" money against softer opposition.
     
  3. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    It'd be hilarious... Pac throwing combinations with fury... at the neutral corner ringpost... while a perplexed Mayweather cautiously approaches, wondering what the hell trick he's playing
     
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    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

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    I'm not sure this statement makes sense. If you maximize something legally, how then is it unfair?


    Floyd's got a lot more than Manny to worry about when his career ends. The names Margarito and Cotto too, not to mention a very real pattern of hand picked easy opposition (which continues to this day I might add) will also be examined whenever his name is brought up. I still can't believe the lack of criticism Floyd got for fighting Ortiz.
     
  5. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    The spirit of the law, rather than the letter of the law.

    Its unfair, but not illegal.
     
  6. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I'm really suprised that ANYONE thinks floyd is Scared to fight Pac, or that Pac would win


    IMO FLoyd is on a different level

    Pac needs to take a test and that's it! then we'll see
     
  7. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    If Floyd is on such another level why would testing even be needed at all?
     
  8. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I agree

    i wish Floyd and his camp would say "ok forget testing" becasue I think he'd beat him anyway

    but.. testing is the right thing to do IMO in boxing and to not do it or have all these conditions IMO means you are not clean, simple as that
     
  9. cdogg187

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    Floyd is trying to clean up boxing, protect its sacred image
     
  10. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    whatever his motives... we shouldn't have fighters taking steroids IMO
     
  11. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    his motive is to have an excuse, nothing more
     
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Well It's clear pac doesn't take steroids so you don't have to worry.

    When will you protest Floyd's hand injections?
     
  13. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Clear?
     
  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    yeah, that flew right over my head, too

    how is it clear at all?
     
  15. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    it's not clear at all

    IMO hand injections for small brittle hands so you can continue to box and injections that can make you faster and stronger are different things
     
  16. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yeah, because he's psychic and knew that Pacquiao would say "no tests" "wait 3 weeks out" "hmm no ok 2 weeks is ok." He knew that Pacquiao would reject his initial 2 weeks out offer, and not accept it until after he'd taken it off the table a year earlier. And so on..
     
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    the hand injections are legal in nevada, no reason to protest them
     
  18. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Fuck that shit.

    Pac doesn't have to take any tests NOT required to him by the NSAC.

    Its Floyd who is clearly ducking Manny with that shit.
     
  19. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    No shit, but try getting Floyd to fight out of Vegas. That being said, it's still not necessarily "clean"
     
  20. Anthony

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    Steroid scan be detected.

    Now if we are talking HGH or even blood doping we are talking something different. But straight up steroids? He isn't taking that shit. my guess is even HGH can be detected, since MMA guys are getting pinched for that now.
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    An unbelievably boring topic...there is nothing to see here guys, let's all move along

    MTF
     
  22. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I call BS on this.

    Floyd's last fight did 1.5 million PPV buys.

    Pac did 1.4 million buys (and 35,000 or so paid attendance) for his Nov '10 fight against an end-of-his-career Margarito. He then followed it up with 1.3 million buys and a sold-out arena for his May fight w/ a version of Shane who hasn't won a fight in over two years.

    His fight w/ Marquez is already on pace to sell out well before the opening bell.

    The only teling stat so far is that Floyd/Shane wasn't a sellout and supposedly massive amounts of tickets are being given away for this weekend's card.

    Floyd is a PPV king but doesn't quite pack in the live audience, whereas Pac still brings 'em in no matter the medium (and apparently, the opponent).

    The reason they remain really the only two true stars in the sport? Because you can't mention one without bringing up the other.

    Sadly, it might take for one of them to lose in order for the fight to finally get made (I personally believe the fight will never happen). But regardless, there will always be a market for such an event if/when it ever takes place.
     
  23. cdogg187

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    indeed... those are very different things
     
  24. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The only other thing I'll say on this... that video didn't need to be two minutes long. Didn't really see the point to repeating the same two scenes over and over. We get the point. Felt like an Oliver Stone movie.
     
  25. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Are you implying the CIA is the reason behind the fight not happening? They're worried if Mayweather wins it could cause such a mourning in the Phillipines and other parts of South Asia that the people would not go to work, and America would not get it's products from the fruits of cheap labor?
     
  26. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think it's pretty clear that's exactly what I was saying
     
  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Not everybody on the board knows you like i do Jake, i just needed you to clarify.
     
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    Thats not the point.

    Point is any fighter who wants to do that can, which makes it a level playing field because its not illegal

    You cant use PEDs
     
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    I'm really surprised that anyone, especially so called real boxing fans still think like this. That their heros are unbeatable immortals sent from God or some shit. I would have thought the defeats of guys like Tyson and RJJ (just to name a couple) would have taught people to temper such dillusional thinking, but nope.

    The day Floyd gets KO'd LOK is going to be standing there with his mouth wide open in utter shock. Me? I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd gets KO'd next week by Ortiz.
     
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