Maidana More than a TEST, Broner More than FINESSE...

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by REEDsART, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Maidana isn't even that good. I shutter to think what a REAL beast like Provo would do to Broner.
     
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    Agreed. I actually feel bad for overrating Broner, even as a long time Broner detractor.

    I said Broner would lose to Garcia, Provo, and Mattysse, but probably beat Maidana. He's not even as good as I thought.

    FFH Provo would slap him around like he stole something.
     
  3. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I think Maidana might be better than he was a few years ago.
     
  4. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Particularly when you consider that Hopkins was not having the same sort of "Superstar" backing that AB was.
     
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    He may well be. He's definitely looked better since joining Garcia, he looked shit against Alexander.

    He's always been awkward, but he looked surprisingly crafty against "Bronner".
     
  6. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Seriously?

    Another crappy point. In his mid-20's Hopkins was fresh out of jail. When he fought Jones the first time he was 28 and Roy was 24. (Hopkins lovers and Jones haters called him "green" at the time). The Allen and Echols fights were during his prime years pre-Trinidad. Broner is what, 22 or 23?

    "Like I said before" the SIX fights listed clearly shows a pattern for B-Hop throughout his entire career. I don't know where this revisionist history is coming from.
     
  7. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Fucking strippers on video should certainly be off the training regiment.
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I don't think he bitched out in either of those fights. So my crappy point stands.
     
  9. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    When you watch this...remember the shit Cintron got after the same thing against Paul Williams. Do you believe Mills Lane pushed him hard enough to send Hopkins flying out of the ring? That's a LeBron James type flop.

    [video=youtube;huSqpxTevp4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSqpxTevp4[/video]
     
  10. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Four minutes in...the precursor to the Dawson fight.


    [video=youtube;2A2dhB7nPwc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2dhB7nPwc[/video]
     
  11. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I don't think he jumped out the ring, no. There's more i could say on it, I think Hopkins is an odd fish, but to keep on topic suffice to say I don't think he bitched out in the same way Broner tried to.
     
  12. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Three minutes in...Hopkins shows he perfected his craft.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNGpDL06OII


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    Last edited: Dec 15, 2013
  13. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Bottom line...how many fighters have you seen laying on the canvas rolling around from "fouls" this many times in their career? Especially one as notoriously dirty as Hopkins?


    "like I said before" Hopkins clearly has shown to do this in the beginning, middle and end of his career.
     
  14. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Sure, it's a fair point.
     
  15. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    30 minutes in..did Joe's shot appear that devastating?



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xRgENK_lEY




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  16. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Six minutes in...another "devastating" blow.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juGH3MKS66A




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  17. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Watching these in a row is pretty hilarious. Clearly Hopkins has bitch in him...typically occurs when guys get rough with him.
     
  18. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    A 48 year old, well ahead on the cards, using theatrics to gain an extra breather is qualitatively different to a 24 year old, getting his ass whupped, trying to QUIT a fight. True whether you accept it or not.
     
  19. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    When/why the fuck did this become a Hopkins thread BTW?
     
  20. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    "Like I said before"

    At 24 Hopkins was fresh out of jail...

    Loaded made a comment about Broner and Hopkins...go back a few pages.

    I replied that Hopkins has shown bitch tendencies throughout his entire career. Thus posting the videos with him laying on the canvas "mortally" wounded.

    :lol:
     
  21. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack



    he didn't show much finesse Broner, did he?
     
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    Never has done imo. He is just cheap little Floyd impersonator with about 0.1% of the talent and skill. He throws accurate punches, everything else about him is average, or subpar - like his workrate.
     
  23. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Yep. Hideously overrated fighter.
     
  24. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    People looking for excuses.....:lol:
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  25. Achille

    Achille Scrub


    That's what I don't like about Hopkins is most of the times he's the one starting with the dirty tactics but as soon another fighter does back to him he does whatever it takes to win that Oscar - Academy Award with that acting job.
     
  26. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    VALID Point...



    REED:hammert:
     
  27. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    BULLSHIT...

    After 2 Rounds, Broner was DOWN 3 Points...Nonetheless, the Fight was Arguably EVEN, just Prior to the 2nd Knockdown, which was in Round 8, if REED's Not Mistaken...It's a Fucking LEGITIMATE "Fight of the Year" Candidate, Bro...1-Sided Fights where a Guy is "Dominated" Rarely if EVER Get F.O.Y. Consideration...

    While Broner CLEARLY LOST, he Definitely had his Moments...If You HONESTLY Don't Think Broner Clearly Won a SINGLE Round, it's Best You Simply DISREGARD Future Adrien Broner Related Threads, Bro...



    REED:hammert:
     
  28. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    BEFORE the Ink Dried on the Contract, Some of Us KNEW Maidana Would Be the BEST Guy Broner had Ever Fought & Would Be a VERY Live Underdog...Dude has like a 90% KO Ratio & has NEVER Been Stopped...To Say he "Isn't Even That Good" is DISingenuous, Brother X...



    REED:kidcool:
     
  29. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Exactly...

    You Simply CANNOT Compare Broner & Bernard, Age for Age, Given BHop's Stint in State Prison...The FAIRER Comparison is Career Arc...As You've FULLY Illustrated, Bernard was Pulling Out So-Called "Bitch" Tactics @ a Similar, If Not EARLIER Point in his Career than Broner...

    To Be CLEAR, What Broner Attempted WAS NOT Brave or Manly, but when Juxtaposed w/THE WAY he Fought, Under HEAVY Duress, it's a NONfuckingISSUE, in REED's Opinion...Yet it Seems to Be THE ONLY Point Broner HATERS Want to Discuss, Other than the Knockdowns....




    REED:shit:
     
  30. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Last Night, No...But PRIOR to Last Night, Most Figured Broner for a Flashy, "Finesse" Type of Fighter...If NATHAN Else, Broner Showed he was "MORE than Finesse", Last Night...



    REED:hammert:
     

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