Pound For Pound

You sell yourself short my friend, you're no schmuck, you're a legend in Finland and perhaps that country's most influential character!!

 

Easily among Fightbeats most influential Finnish posters!

 

Who's BETTER Pound for Pound, Hut???...

Roberto Duran or Tommy Hearns???...While Answering that Question, ALSO Explain How You REACHED that Conclusion, Por Favor???...




REED:hammert:

 

When Hearns destroyed him, he was a much better fighter p4p. When you take the entirety of their respective career, you have an argument for Duran.

 

You guys are just saying that so I couldn't fulfill my national destiny and finally commit a suicide

 

You need to stay above ground for at least a little while longer to enjoy the glorious Patrick Laine.

 

I think KO Magazine had Mike Tyson (A HEAVYWEIGHT!) the pound-for-pound #1 when he fought the pound-for-pound #2 Michael Spinks. Dunno how they put a HW #1 P4P

 

It's one of the few times they did as far as i know. P4P was not just to be recognized in literal terms, but essentially the best fighter in the world outside of the heavyweight division because there is no limit. One on one Ray Robinson isn't going to beat Ron Lyle and Ray Leonard doesn't have a chance against Gerry Cooney.

So that means the heavyweights are better?

If you put any reasonably competent driver in a Ferrari against a Formula 1 champion in a minivan and the guy driving the Ferrari wins does it mean he's the better driver?

 

plenty of people who indulge in this fuckery ranked lennox lewis and wald pussy among the top 10 pound for pound, despite the fact they routinely outweighed and outsized the majority of their opposition

 

Why wouldn't they?

 

At which point of time?

 

Tyson WAS the best fighter P4P at that time. If P4P were to exclude heavyweights it would be rendered meaningless

 

Uuuuuh, During their BOXING Careers...





REED

 

We're discussing current p4p rankings

 

So You've Never SEEN Nor PARTICIPATED in a "Best Fighter of All Time, Pound for Pound" Discussion???...

Of Course you Have, and in Any OTHER Thread You'd Gleefully and Resoundingly Proclaim "The Duran" as a Better Fighter than Tommy Hearns, Pound for Pound...

Yet for Some Reason, You're INTENTIONALLY Being Obtuse and Disingenuous in Regards to This Topic....

Again, Pound for Pound ISNT Even Remotely as Difficult to Grasp as Some of Y'all Make it...





REED

 

All time lists rank complete career accomplishments, a ring p4p list ranks the best, most dominant fighters at a given moment. Not complicated, just different. Duran's claim to be a top 10 atg is enhanced by his beating Barkley as Hearns' is by his beating hill; neither belonged within a mile of a ring p4p list of current fighters at the moment those fights took place

 

I don't rank heavyweights in p4p lists. The division is too unique and factors such as reach and weight come into it way more than they do in other divisions.

 

REED Doesn't Recall Duran or Hearns Being Listed on Any Pound for Pound Rankings @ That Stage of Their Careers Either...




REED:kidcool:

 

Your account hasnt been taken over by a cyberdyne bot too REED, has it? Say it ain't so

 

So does Ward's win make him P4P #1 over Chocolatito?

 

if he had actually won it might. i would argue kovalev deserves the top spot.

 

Controversial, but I think Kovalev deserves the nb 1 spot, and Ward is second. Loma might get the second or even first place if he looks spectacular against Walters

 

Can't wait for that one!

 

Not sure it's that controversial, sly and the judges seem to be the only 4 people on earth Whod disagree

 

Max Kellerman too.

 

It's obvious that most people here preferred Kovalev going in, Ward seemed to have his haters, therefore in a close fight the forum consensus was always going to be that Kovalev won. Objectively though, this was a close fight that could have been scored either way.

 

Julio Cesar Chavez

 

I like both guy, and I could see an argument for Ward, but you have to give him the benefit of the doubt in each and every close rounds.

 

seemed like most people on this board picked ward to win.

 

I would say Ward deserves to be pound 4 pound number 1 in principle. He did get the win over Kovalev, even though most seem to think he lost, including me.

But it is the single most important big fight win of the year, and taking into account Ward's overall quality of competition.

My guess is he'll unify with Stevenson first before giving Kovalev a rematch but we shall see.