Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Rich ´Money´ Mustard, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I think Fury is better than Ortiz.
     
  2. Im leaning toward Deontay Wilder now.

    Fury has added Freddie Roach and, lolololololol - Ricky Hatton into his corner which will surely mean main cornerman, Ben 'I've-got-no-experience-at-all' Davison will be shoved aside.

    Disorganisation already.
     
  3. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    This comes down to whether Fury has the fitness to go the 12. If he's 100% mentally and physically, he has absolutely every chance of winning. He has the tools to make Wilder look like a fool. This won't be a classic, but it could well have one moment in the fight where it suddenly explodes in to life and it's over (with Wilder landing a big right).
     
  4. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Hearn having a pop at sales, saying every ticket price is still available and that it hasn't broken 8k sales yet.
     
  5. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I'm not certain. I bet Ortiz would be better if he was 5 years younger...It's a fucking shame he arrived so late
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    We're deep into fight week and we're talking about this fight at all? Weird, but I'm not all that excited for it either.

    I'm sticking with the prediction I've had all along... Wilder stops him in about 5-6.
     
  7. It's the weirdest fight in years.
    Fury has dropped 100lb in weight which means he's super-serious for this fight, and he's a great boxer/mover but on the other hand, Wilder has the ability to KO anyone.

    Ive stated Fury would outbox Wilder but what with all these corner changes, I dont know now...
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Ticket sales have been abysmal, apparently.

    It's hilarious that Wilder thinks this will generate over a million buys.

    If they hit 400k buys it should be seen as a huge success.

    I'm gonna say 350k.

    What's sad is, Pac-Broner will do double the PPV numbers of Wilder-Fury.
     
  9. Which just illustrates how shit the sport is today.
    Just dogshit.
     
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  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    This week it was announced that Crawford's next fight is against Louie Collazo.

    To put that into perspective... Collazo once got dominated by Mosley back when Shane still had a good amount left in the tank. And Mosley has been shot now for 100 years.

    Collazo hasn't had a good performance since he beat up a prime Hatton. Let that sink in how long ago that was. It's awful that Crawford is fighting him.

    Canelo is fighting Rocky Fielding, Spence is fighting Tiny Mikey and Porter/Thurman will continue to avoid him. Yeah, 2019 might be a bad year.
     
  11. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

  12. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    if it has sold 8k Im guessing at least 5k is brits. no one here in LA knows furry, or wilder
     
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  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    No one knows who that bum Wilder is.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    So much for being the "baddest man on the planet".

    Mike has been retired for 15 years and still can't walk in the general population without bodyguards cause he'd be mobbed by fans.

    Wilder could walk through Manhattan and maybe 5 people would recognize him.
     
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  15. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    Wilder is more popular than you think. Every time he takes a cab he is recognized by the drivers. But that's because he actually fought them.
     
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  16. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    LMAO!!!!

    In all seriousness, Wilder seems to be popular with casuals. His fans go to war for him.
     
  17. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    In Europe the fight has created pretty much excitement, which is understandable since all major heavyweight bouts have been here for years.

    Still, those ticket sales sound extremely bad
     
  18. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I'm excited. This has been one of the most difficult fights to call that I can remember. I'm leaning towards Wilder because 36 minutes is a long time to go without getting caught by that right hand, especially when you've been out so long and ballooned in weight like Fury. The comeback fights told us nothing because the opponents were shit and he was still in the process of losing weight. We have no idea if Fury still has the legs he had Vs Klitschko. If he does I would lean towards him, but we just don't know. I am rooting for Fury though.
     
  19. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I'm pretty excited and it's got a lot of people talking here, including totally casual fans (my girlfriend keeps asking to see the build up shows on YouTube!). I think this shouldve been in the UK
     
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  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Wilder is probably more famous in the UK as 'that guy joshua/fury is gonna fight' than he is in the US.
     
  21. its fine to say 'if he avoids that right hand" but Wilder does not have Naseem Hamed/Julian Jackson/Thomas Hearns/Mike Tyson/Lennox Lewis technique or power though...and enough guys went the distance with them.
     
  22. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Technique? Fuck no, of course not, but his power is serious as cancer.
     
  23. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Agreed. Wilder has very little variety in his boxing, but nothing suggests that his power couldn't be on the level of Lennox. Or if it isn't quite there, it can't be far behind either
     
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  24. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Easily
     
  25. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    If this ppv does shit, it will hurt Wilder's negotiations with Joshua (assuming he wins).
     
  26. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I saw an interview with Hearn where he said if Wilder-Fury does 1m+ views he will give him 50/50 Vs AJ.
     
  27. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Firstly, even if by some MAJOR MIRACLE that were to happen, I don't believing Eddie would offer 50/50. He's a pathological liar.

    Secondly, Eddie made that statement knowing damn well this fight won't break a million buys.

    Not a shot in Hell.

    "Like I said before", I'm predicting 300-350k buys.

    VERY VERY best case scenario, like 500k.
     
  28. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Exactly. What he was really saying was, we do not intend to give him 50/50.
     
  29. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    It's more like "we'll consider it because we'll basically have to at that point, but will find other reasons not to in the mean time"
     
  30. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

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