Either he REINSTATES My Account OR Somebody's Gonna End Up Having to BAN My Ass...

Discussion in 'Hall of Fame/Shame' started by REEDsART, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Irish, you probably don't know this, but digital images are encoded with special information that identifies their time of creation, and other info that can show where an image originated.

    REED stole images, as did ILLUMINATI, that did not originate from their computers. It's fairly easy to prove.
     
  2. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    Yeah, but how did anybody even know to check that, and what does it matter?
     
  3. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    I'm sure they would check if it were considered stolen property. That's how websites protect their online pictures from being stolen.
     
  4. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Wow, this is nuts.

    Ok, here's my 2 cents.

    First, Reed needs to be unbanned immediately. IMMEDIATELY. Did he get racist with Bama? Who gives a fuck. Bama majorly stepped over the line doing netcopping Reeds Photobucket account.

    Bama's pictures were on public websites. That's free domain. If you post your picture on a website, it's open season. For him to cry to Photobucket is a self ownage worse than anything this board has ever seen. It blows away Rubio. It blows away Bama's previous ownings (Vizio, him being fat, etc), it blows away Petre\GTP....all of them.

    You people need to put things in perspective. Bama crosses the line, and Reed gets banned? You have people on this site, most notably Hegman, threatening physical harm on other members, and Reed gets banned because he made a '3rd World' comment to someone who netcopped his Photobucket account?

    If anyone deserves a banning...a permanent one at that, it's Bama. But that's step 2. Step 1 is get Reed re-instated right now.


    TFK
     
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    Punk "Twinkle Toes" McJack Staff Member

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    The images were in the public domain. REED didn't hack your photobucket and "steal" them. Fair use provisions exist.
     
  6. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Agreed.
     
  7. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Last time I checked the rules, I didn't see "Don't make fun of FightBeat" as a rule. I did see "Ethnic Slurs" will not be tolerated. If making fun of FightBeat is something not allowed here, then people need to be told about it.

    GamingCove and VGLN Forums don't exist anymore, in fact they haven't for 5 years. I don't see how those forums have any relevance on these forums. You could have at anytime asked me to give you the IP addy's of those people, and I would have if you needed them.
     
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    Rainmaker "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Bama are you a moderator on Facebook or Photobucket?
     
  9. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King

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    Bama, why didn't you ask somebody here to just delete the photos off the website if you were that upset by them?

    Killing REED's accounts which had who knows what on them, possibly a good portion of his life seems like overkill to me.

    How are we to know you wouldn't go to the same lengths with anybody else on this site you decided to get into an e-beef with?
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Do you even know what "Fair use" provisions are? I don't think you do because Fair use is a term used mostly in commercial projects where profit is involved. But just to humor you, maybe you could explain how REED's use was a "fair use" case.

    Fair use includes "commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, teaching or scholarship". I don't know about you, but REED's use doesn't include any of the above.

    There are 4 factors that a judge will use to determine "Fair Use".

    1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
    One must demonstrate how it either advances knowledge or the progress of the arts through the addition of something new.

    2. the nature of the copyrighted work;

    3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

    4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No I am not.
     
  12. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    In other words, somebody has to give them the heads up, right?
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I actually did ask a mod to actually look at some threads, and I was met with indifference. So it's not like I have not tried to go through the channels provided here at FightBeat.

    REED went overboard with the racism, and personal attacks as do a lot of people on this website, a lot of it unprovoked.

    I even warned REED about what was going to happen, and he continued acting like a cunt. I'm not sure what you guys expected me to do.
     
  14. Punk

    Punk "Twinkle Toes" McJack Staff Member

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    Bama, your images were not stolen, they were obtained from public domain. Unfair? Maybe. Illegal? No.

    If you had a problem with their use, mods could easily have deleted them with a simple PM. This should have been your first port of call.

    Most is not all would agree that you should do everything possible to reinstate REED's accounts.
     
  15. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    Correct.
     
  16. Irish

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    :partie::partie:
     
  17. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    And so it thickens.:crafty:
     
  18. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Why is Reed still banned?


    TFK
     
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    So how can you re-activate his account? If you can do that, do it.
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I love how people get bent out of shape about stupid shit like ethnic/racial slurs. It's almost as stupid as people's unreasonable sense of nationalism.
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    To be honest, his Photobucket account may already be reactivated, but I'm not sure if any of the content is still there. It's unfortunate really.
     
  22. Irish

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    When you consider that they were both throwing low-blows, and that only one of them got banned....its even wackier.
     
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    Bammer, you're getting argumentative with me. You know that you allowed a lot of people to attack me on your old site, and you did nothing about it.

    Then you complain that REED is allowed to go unchecked when that is exactly what happened on your site. That is inconsistent to say the least. If you were fine with letting people attack me on your website, then what is the problem here?

    To claim that the moderation is "shitty", as you put it, sounds kind of ridiculous when it was a moderator who banned the person you were arguing with for going over the line. You yourself said moderation was uneven, but you've been given chances here regarding things you've said.

    Regardless, you go ahead and continue arguing with the others. I'm not interested in getting caught up in it. I'll be checking in, and if someone wants to report something, feel free.
     
  24. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I find this whole episode just entirely depressing. Wasn't this the place we came to relax and talk nonsense about boxing & boobs? It surely wasn't for talk of intra membership law suits. Ive honestly no conception of the mind set that can create this kind of fucking drama out of talking to a bunch of guys you'll never meet about trivia.
     
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    Me and Reed have history, and we got stuck into each other over the PED's thing, but it never descended into this.
     
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    Punk "Twinkle Toes" McJack Staff Member

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    Could you imagine if REED was still posting on this topic, right now?

    Bama would probably have closed his bank accounts, sold his house and installed him on the CIA watch list in addition to the photobucket thing.

    All anyone wants is for REED's accounts to be back up and running, that's it. Whatever happens afterwards is moot.
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I actually told the mod who banned REED it was even handed and fair. It was shitty until that point, and other posters (Caligula) pointed that out as well.

    As for you bringing up something from 5 years ago, actually more like 7 years ago, you can hover over that for another 5-7 years. I'm not going to waste time doing so.

    REED, stepped over the line. Plain and simple.
     
  28. Irish

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    Suppose I do it too. You going to get me banned? And the next guy? You will be found floating in the fucking Bay.
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Or heavily enriched by defamation lawsuits. :lol:
     
  30. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    Defamation? Refers to the published word. Posting pictures of people with man-boobs where those people actually have man-boobs is not a ground for defamation, for you proudly posses said man-boobs.u

    Now, if someone shopped the photo and made you a D cup when you were really only a C cup, you might have a chance.
     

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