Povetkin's Team Want Klitschko To Pass WADA Drug Tests

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by KaukipRrr, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Great. Now Wlad and Vitali can get out of a fight with that Killer David Haye, because Haye has gone from a chinny cruiserweight to a 220lb heavyweight who has buckets of stamina and is knocking everyone out*......so me might be on PED's

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    * not in fact true
     
  2. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    Those photos were all taken the best part of 10 years ago. The guy was 220lbs when he debuted at the age of 20 after the Olympics and was 235 2.5 years later, and has floated between 235 and 245 since then.

    Adamek, by contrast, has put on 45lbs in 3 years, and I dont see anyone in the Arreola camp complaining.

    I think Povetkin just lacks balls, or else this is Thuggy Atlas way of getting at the Klitschkos for not allowing them to fuck up Wlads career.
     
  3. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    No, "those guys" did not. Vitali however did, as an am test positive for a banned substance. I can't find anything that says exactly what he took, but he freely admits it happened, and it was given to him by his doctor to help heal a leg injury, which is very common. He claims that he didn't know it was a banned substance. For what ever that is worth.
     
  4. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Proof is knowing the sports training system of former Soviet Union and knowing the testing systems of USA. People from Ukraine know everything about doping (plenty of their athletes have been caught) while officials in US never test athletes during training seasons. It doesn't really take big effort to do the math
     
  5. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Then why dont you do some? Wlad was 14 when the USSR collapsed.
     
  6. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Whoah, Whoah...

    U Proclaimed YOURSELF "REED's Troll" YEARS Ago...U CHEATING on REED Now, Motherfucker???...

    REED:warning:
     
  7. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Yes, and Ukraine has continued its great traditions. Plenty of Ukrainian track-and-field athletes for example have been busted throughout the years. In those countries getting caught from doping is not seen as a big deal at all. In US it is a big deal, that's why they don't want to find out the truth
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Sound like a bunch or speculation to me. How about some actual proof if you're going to say something is fact.
     
  9. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

    great news...the klits looooove HGH
     
  10. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Plenty of Brits and Yanks have been caught too. :boohoo::boohoo:
     
  11. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Your girlfriends klit grows like a motherfucker when it gets my hormone......:stir:
     
  12. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    True, and I have no doubt that plenty of Brit and Yank boxers are roiding as well
     
  13. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Okay...so the world is roiding. Great. So far we have one Ukrainian and one Filipino, both of whom have been found guilty by way of failing the "Whisper Test" as laid down by the pharmaceutical firm of Floyd, Ellerbee and Oscar.
     
  14. bigdawg

    bigdawg Undisputed Champion

    Many athletes could be roiding or PEDing. It's just that the tests that boxers take currently aren't adequate tests. Just like when baseball started their drug testing. We see that there was hella baseball players testing positive. I just don't understand why so many are against the extra testing. What's wrong with making sure that our athletes are who they are. If you aren't using then take the damn tests. Make a point to the world. Besides you know what that would do for the image of Manny if he took those tests and they all came back negative. That shit would be wild. I'll Holla 5000
     
  15. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Well 'Dawg, as I said above, Manny has moved thru the weight divisions, from Flyweight to Welterweight {145} and has shown a sudden, marked improvement. He also turned down a $40m pay day.

    Klitschko has put on 22lbs in 14 years and has actually gone backwards in terms of his explosive style. He has nothing to lose by avoiding Povetkin. More pertinently, he does not have $40m to gain.

    I dont think they are remotely similar circumstances.
     
  16. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    What do you mean he "freely admits it?" He was caught and kicked off his Olympic team. WTF was he supposed to do? He did what they all do - claim it was for an injury. Please.
     
  17. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    He took the substances on medical advice, via a General Practitioner. He was kicked off because he failed a test, not because he had tried to gain an illegal advantage. He had no real advantage to gain from taking this substance outside the scope of a training programme, and a large part of his refusal to appeal was grounded in Wladimir getting his place. This was not a Balco type affair, when you get right down to it.
     
  18. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    When you get right down to it, he tested positive for steroids. Mark McGwire used them for injuries too - I guess Mr. pHD in sports medicine did too.
     
  19. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Actually, there has scant light shed on what he tested positive for. Even rudimentary positive tests usually name a substance, Nandrolne, Stanozolol, Ephedrine, Pseduo-Ephedrine, etc.
     
  20. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    On what who tested for? And why is that relevant?
     
  21. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Well, when a chap is detained by the police, is it not usual to ask what the charges are?

    Mike Katz, formerly of "House of Boxing", said it was a diuretic.
     
  22. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Arreola should be one of the LAST people in boxing to complain about weight gain.
     
  23. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    How is that relevant, again?
     
  24. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    Plenty of people have accused Adamek.
     
  25. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Oh yeah? Like who?

    I think this is what Povetkin is angling at......http://www.fightnews.com/?p=42039
     
  26. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Diuretics are not steroids, for openers.

    Secondly, it illustrates how scant light has been shed on this matter.

    Of course, they probably didnt figure Vitali to become such a pain in the ass down the line, so they let it slide.....:popcorn:
     
  27. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    So you're saying he was kicked off his Olympic team falsely. Or that you heard that? I assume he agreed with the lie? Since he admitted to using steroids in his autobiography?
     
  28. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    Not sure if I can dig it up - someone in his own camp accused him, actually. And Povetkin's contract with Sauerland calls for Olympic Styled Testing so I don't think he was angling at anything. Although it is strange that Haye has come up after negotiations broke down over this.
     
  29. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Well, you seem pretty good at digging, so dig for victory, young sir!
     
  30. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    Will do, will do. Would love to read it again myself, bro.
     

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