Basicalpy what I'm reading in this thread is that the top 5 P4P's (Usyk, Canelo, Crawford, Choc, Spence) best wins can't hold a candle to a young Nando Vargas as a best win (wraps aside)
Oh damn bro now youre taking me way back. My very first fight I got nose bleed tickets for Mayweather vs Corrales paid like 75 bucks at the mgm . I remember Castillo vs Bazan was on the undercard. And since I was huge De La Hoya fan I remember going back to vegas that summer to watch De La Hoya vs Castillejo which honestly was kind of a boring fight. But i did get to watch Pacquio make his u.s debut vs Ledwaba. This had to be 2000 or 2001 cant remember.
Are u even allowed to use a computer. Arent you a registered sex offender convict??? Now go back in you cage boy!
In the figment of your imagination maybe. It's crazy how in one fight Canelo went from P4P to underrated. Before the bivol fight saying Chocolatito was greater than Canelo would get you laughed out of a boxing forum. Now all the haters are coming out of the woodwork saying off the wall shit.
Well Fighbeat as always been kind of like the nerdy, socially ankward kid who hates anything mainstream and popular. In some cases it's bang on (like not falling for Mayweather's GOAT garbage), in other cases, it's honestly kind of sad and screams ''look at me'' more than anything else...
It really wouldn't. There's legions of people on ESB who've said that for years. And it should just be clear watching them and their opponents.
Well thanks for the heads up. Everybody hates the Yankees but at the end of the day they are a great franchise. Canelo is as mainstream as macdonalds and the Yankees so i get there's going to be that group that resents his popularity I get that. But as a boxing fan you cant let that influence you. I try to be objective and call it like I see it even if I'm not a fan of the boxer. When they start off their post with Clenelo or Caneloroid Alvarez you just know its a bias post and cant be taken seriously.
It's only laughable to a casual such as yourself who sucks on the teat of any Mexican. Choco is top 3-4 all time at 105-108. Name any division where Clen is top 3-4 all time.
Nah, we're pretty bang on for not falling for the Clenelo hype. If we purely compare primes, there's no one who should say with a straight face that Canelo was as good as prime Gonzalez. Choco was simply a more talented, and more versatile operator.
Why are you always bringing up race. I like a lot of fighters that arent Mexican. But you on the other hand hate on Canelo or any Mexican fighters 24/7 you dont even try to hide it. Like when you create a threads like "oh who's greater Duran or Chavez? "That's a rethorical question. Obviously youre trying to undermine Mexican fighters with threads like that. Come on anyone with a half of brain can see right through it. Lmao Its like asking oh who's better Mayweather or Gatti .
Canelo and De La Homo are quite literally the only two Mexicans I dislike. There goes that theory. Duran is literally 50% Mexican and my third favorite fighter of all time. Sal Sanchez is one of my favorite fighters of all time. Zarate is one of my favorite fighters of all time. Corrales, 50% Mexican, one of my favorite fighters of all time. These aren't secrets. You're full of shit. Are you HONESTLY correlating a Choco/Canelo comparison with a Mayweather/Gatti comparison? Please, tell me that wasn't your intent...
Can we just make it clear Mexican isnt a race? Canelo is white. I dont know who his real dad is, but the guy his mom is pretending is his dad aint. But thats another thread I guess. Mexican aint a race.
Ok well i may have misjudged you. Youre not a racist. But do you drink tequila? Thats the real test. There are towns in Mexico where they have people of European descent. Like Spaniard and French. My great grandfather was from spain but lived in Mexico all his life. So yes there are European Mexicans so tecnically Mexican is not a race but to a black man or a white man we might all be the same. I hear it all the time people referring to a Latino as the "mexican" when they could be from El Salvador or Argentina. People are ignorant what are you gonna do.
I mean there are white, Asian and Black mexicans. When the Europeans invaded Mexico they spread their DNA all over the place. Same with the African slaves on those Ships, along with the African slaves that many Natives owned. Same with Most Latin American and Caribbean countries.
Why do you hate Canelo? I don't get the hate for a guy that despite his flaws as a fighter he's active fighting 2 to 4 fights a year. Do you prefer guys like Andrade that only fight once every 24 or 36 months? Sure he has short arms and doesn't have a good jab or good foot work but has fast hands. His cardio might be shit but that's only because he doesn't do much road work. But it's a problem he easily solves by having a low punch output(conserving his energy).
Why are so obsessed with wanting everyone to dick ride Canelo? Do I whine and complain begging everyone to be a Jones fan?
Canelo opposition for the last 3-4 yrs has been poopie….Smith, Billy Ko/Bob something, plank/plant…ancient, Auschwitz’s Kova was the last fight of Canelo I care about watching..live.
Exactly you can't give a good reason. If Canelo was black you'd be dick riding him . If Canelo was from the UK GC would be dropping the soap in the shower for Canelo. Facts.
I dislike just about every Black fighter of today except for like 4. You're just trolling. YOU opened this race-baiting thread based on some pointless video from that Canelo pillow biter Boxing Nuke, then wanna accuse every one of racism in it.
ESB? Isn't that the racist site that was black and gold back in the day? No one is going to care about 105 pound fighters. How often is El Finito talked about?