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I disagree... if we transpose Calzaghe's career and achievements into the current era, I think he gets the same discussion as a top P4P candidate...
But would that be a reflection on Loma, or a reflection on the fighters of Calzaghe's era? (which included the likes of Hopkins, RJ, DeLaHoya,...
I wouldn't say O'Grady just had one quality night - he was flagrantly screwed against Jim Watt in Scotland and would've probably been a stoppage...
Except I think he took that fight on short notice (as he often did with fights at that stage of his career), and it was a tentative and indecisive...
Johnson was mostly a journeyman at that stage of his career. He often came up short against a level of opponent that Lacy could reliably beat...
I think a case can be made that the winner is TBE at 154. Does the outcome change if it's at 160?
He was impressive in their rematch, but he wasn't able to replicate that performance in their other 2 fights, which he lost partly because of his...
Pavlik beat Taylor above 160 in their rematch.
Loma got a far more insane amount of mileage out of beating a 37-year old career bantam/jr FW up at 130.
These were The Ring's P4P rankings at the end of 2015 and 2016. Walters wasn't in either one. 2015: Roman Gonzalez Sergey Kovalev Gennady...
This. :cheers:
The British commentators on their broadcast made the same claim.
I don't understand where Mosley gets this reputation for "being tamed" on this board. The guy was in numerous hard-fought battles with a...
The latter IMO. Regardless of what excuses he may have had, the manner in which he surrendered his title to Honeyghan and was flattened with one...
IMO, this tier should be eliminated and everyone on it moved either up or down a tier. From a purely H2H perspective, I think Chandler,...
In a similar vein, when Benvenuti flattened Luis Rodriguez with an ATG left hook out of the blue, Cossell was clearly too busy rambling on about...
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Since this is H2H (as opposed to ranking accomplishments/greatness) I would put Zarate and Panama Al Brown in Tier 1. I think Zarate is no less...
You don't think the effort to make 154 would take something out of him?
Starling does just enough to come up short (perhaps controversially) IMO.
Vargas was pudgy and past his prime up at 160. Out of all the fighters listed, he's the one most certain to get stopped.
I give the edge to Rose as well. I don't think Pintor does any one thing spectacularly enough to beat Rose.
Nino should be too quick with his hands and too savvy and unpredictable for Vargas.
Yes, he was one of the first fighters to become a major TV attraction.
I don't see Jackson having the durability to win this. I think Valdez should be able to survive some big bombs and rocky moments early and then...
Was Pernell Whitaker considered the "A" side when he fought JL Ramirez? Would he be considered as sharing the A side when he fought Chavez?
Kid Gavilan is remembered for receiving a number of close/debatable split decisions in his career, but he was on the receiving end of a number of...
I'd probably give the edge to Pac. Ortiz was occasionally troubled by speedsters, and Pac would be a speedster with exceptional power.
Pintor's steady and persistent attack should carry him to victory vs. Medel's sporadic bursts IMO.
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